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and I was into drums I'm a drummer I was

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in rock bands I was into

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1970 was like like Led Zeppelin maybe

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and the Beatles and the stones I wasn't

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into UFOs so that story faded from my

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memory for decades of time I never told

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even my brothers or my mother I have two

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brothers and a mother they're still

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alive I never told anyone that story but

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after my dad died man it came rushing

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back the whole scene came back like a

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movie and and that inspired this book my

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book after they came

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when um I had a friend

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I had a friend come over when when

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people hear you say something like that

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and you know how could you forget about

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it and it happens I had a friend come

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over I hadn't seen him uh oh man

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probably 40 years something like that

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and he comes over to the house

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um we uh he's a drummer by the way

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um and we went to school together in

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Panama in Central America and

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um uh my father was in the military and

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so forth anyway so he comes over we're

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having dinner I think Jason Martel was

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and his name's Javier and Javier is

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still a great drummer Javier goes man

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um remember that UFO we saw in in Panama

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I go what

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no I don't because man you saw it you

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were losing your mind you were jumping

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up and down and it was silver with

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lights around it it was right above us

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it was a saucer silver so I go what are

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you talking about

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dude you you lost your mic he's telling

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the whole story everything that I and I

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did Dan as sure as I'm sitting here I

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don't remember it I don't remember it

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you know and I've I've talked to a

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couple of friends about it but hey man

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missing time maybe you were abducted

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um but the the the facts are

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um I I would love to be able to tell the

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story

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I don't remember it I don't I I I do not

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remember it at all isn't that crazy

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um I I had a group of friends we had the

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siding

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in Monterey and then we'll move on

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Heather sighting in Monterey and it was

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a black triangle and it shot across the

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sky and there was three of my friends

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and not in the UFO community in the

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music business and it was like 1995

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1996.

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a couple of years ago at The NAMM Show

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You Know The NAMM Show right so uh I'm

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at The NAMM Show and the three of us are

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standing together we haven't been you

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know in the same place at the same time

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in 20 years

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and I go do you guys remember that UFO

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we saw a Monterey we're like what I go

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remember that we were taking pictures

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and and and and Bob you went what is

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that and I looked up and I snapped a

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couple of people yeah

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Jimmy what are you talking about

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I could do I got the pictures of us

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together in the water well yeah remember

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that okay the UFO you pointed up and we

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no no it's like I was like okay whatever

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Moving On Moving on but yeah it's it

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it's just something that just goes by

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and if there's a reason to remember it

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you remember it

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it was a profound moment in my young

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life truly it was

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and I remember the next day waking up

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early looking in the newspaper no story

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that the day after I looked no story and

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then like I said earlier I just

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completely forgot about it I never asked

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my dad again about that moment in time

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over the years I said hey Dad you know

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anything about aliens or UFOs and he

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would go aliens UFO

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please you know if they exit I don't

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think they exist you just completely

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scoff and mock it so my dad and I never

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had a conversation

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about certainly not the event that we

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saw now here's this is very cool

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after my father died 2017. I called my

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mother my mother's still alive God bless

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her she's 88 now she lives in a

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wheelchair in New Jersey

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she's still with us but I said Mom did

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Dad ever mention aliens or UFOs in all

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the years that he worked for the Army

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electronics engineer everything my

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father designed Jimmy was in the sky

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right drones missiles and radar systems

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everything he built was was made to go

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into the sky

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to fly and to uh spy on our on our

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enemies my dad the only thing he ever

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said about his job

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he said I helped America win the cold

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war that was the one line that my dad

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ever said about his job

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but after he died I asked my mom my mom

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said the first week he was at Fort

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Monmouth in 1951.

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they took him deep and she said deep

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deep into the vaults and they showed him

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something top secret and they said you

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can never tell anyone this as long as

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and she said he came home that night he

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was pale and shaky and nervous and she

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said what's wrong and he said I saw

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something I could never tell you or

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anyone as long as I lived I saw

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something top secret today

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he never revealed what that was now my

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dad was of the pension generation right

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pension pension pension 65 pension

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pension pension my dad was not going to

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jeopardize his pension though for not

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for anything that was not going to

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happen

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so he never revealed what that was so if

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you put these things together I saw a

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major UFO with my dad and he had no

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expression on his face and then he

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winked at me and said let's go home

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that's number one number two my mother

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said the week she started they showed

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him something top secret in the bolts

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there number three for 45 years

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everything my father did flew in the sky

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and spied on our on our enemies how oh

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and here's number four we were talking

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about there earlier and Richard Dolan's

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uh disclosure book and volume one in the

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back there's a listing of military UFO

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sightings in 1951 and in 1952 the first

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two years my dad worked at Fort Monmouth

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there were sightings directly above Fort

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Wellness that are chronicled in Richard

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Jones but add all those things together

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How Could my father not have known about

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UFOs it's just it's highly unlikely it's

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entirely improbable

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and when he saw the V with me he looked

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at it like he had seen it before I swear

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to God like he knew what it was and he'd

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seen it before

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the fact that I forgot about it for 37

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years that's just unbelievable was it uh

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I mean describe the craft to me Jimmy it

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was a huge letter v like Victor it was a

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full-on v Silver v it had a light on

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each of the three tips and it just

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unbelievably slowly unbelievably slowly

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maybe two three hundred feet in the air

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like this it's just like seeing a

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dinosaur walk down Wilshire Boulevard

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like a brontosaurus I mean that's

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something completely incongruous to real

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life and I'm jumping up and down

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screaming to my dad now if my dad didn't

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know what it was he would have said wow

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right wouldn't he have hugged me and

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said look at this look what we're seeing

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this is remarkable let's tell everybody

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that in the back there that's what my

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dad but like he was looking at his car

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driving down the street

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now my mother told me this is

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interesting the other day my mother told

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me my dad used to go to White Sands

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many many many times

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to watch things fly and test things in

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over the years so whatever my dad was

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doodling at his desk he was designing

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things and then he traveled and he saw

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them being flown in the sky

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so yeah the um uh the idea of uh you

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know a a private Corporation or the

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military in the Department of Defense

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um backwards engineering um and alien

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discussed you know for for many many

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years that that uh there has been uh

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quite a few people that have gone on the

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record and and have said that we have

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uh Skunk Works or Edwards or Area 51 or

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um I I think that where there's smoke

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there's fire Dan this has been mentioned

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over and over again and when we also

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look at the technical leaps that we seem

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to have made certainly since 1947 that

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some of this technology may have come

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from off planet that these things just

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just happened very very quickly these

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technical Marvels man it was just like

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one after another

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um and would it surprise you that that's

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what was going on in New Jersey

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no no not at all not at all well you

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must know Bob Lazar or I'm sure you've

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run into babazar I mean you think he's

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the real deal I'm sure don't you uh

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this that that's a whole nother show

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okay all right that's uh that's a whole

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nother show how to how to divide my

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audience and get a fight going yeah okay

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let's not do that yeah he always seemed

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credible with the documentaries I saw

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but you know well yeah yeah the the

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um well not the recent stuff but the

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early stuff that Bob did this is my own

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opinion

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um but there are those early videos

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um 1990 right right in there and the one

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that he did out at the little alien he

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did underneath the tent

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um those videos I watched hundreds of

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times over the years I I I would watch

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them back to back all day long and

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studying his his speech what he was

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talking about the technical side of

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things his demeanor

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um and trying to have him trip himself

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up so I didn't have to believe him but

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he never did to me in those early videos

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he never really tripped himself up he

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was always so well spoken and and

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um yeah I was a I was a supporter for

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um about two weeks ago there was a big

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article about me and my book and my

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father in The Daily Mail newspaper out

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of the UK I have PR people working for

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me I'm a publicist but but I have PR

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people working for me now as well anyway

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there was a big article about me

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recently in the Daily Mail

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and after that article ran I got some

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very interesting emails one was from a

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from New Jersey who said the following

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he said Dan I read your article and I

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siblings my three older siblings saw the

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same silver vcraft in March 1970 over

276
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Tinton Falls New Jersey that you saw

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Tinton Falls was a few Towns over from

278
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my town he said their whole lives my

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siblings never had corroborating

280
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evidence until they read about you thank

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you

282
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so I did not make up this the Silver v

283
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you know uh it was real and I had it

284
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corroborated the other day and then I

285
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got another email recently from near my

286
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hometown in New Jersey it said hey Dan

287
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my dad worked at Fort Monmouth too

288
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and he used to come home sometimes and

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and he was acting really strange and

290
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weird and jumpy

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and and sometimes when there was

292
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lightning or things that were happening

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in the sky he'd be looking out the

294
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window and be really nervous and junky

295
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jumpy and jittery and they said we never

296
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quite understood what he was doing he

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said he was working with electricity and

298
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lighting and things that go in the sky

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that's all he ever told his family

300
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he worked at Fort Mama put probably with

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my dad

302
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I'm telling you uh whatever Fort

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Monmouth was whatever they were doing it

304
00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:08,700
was interesting work and again 1951

305
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that's only four years four years after

306
00:13:16,310 --> 00:13:13,620
us well my dad started his job four

307
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years after Roz well when they say when

308
00:13:21,290 --> 00:13:19,200
he say V it was it wasn't an air foil

309
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right it wasn't a flying wing it was it

310
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yeah with the the the Apex okay so the

311
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apex of the V was near me and the wings

312
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were behind so the Apex I mean near me

313
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and it is it was floating not flying if

314
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you know what I mean it was suspended in

315
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the air it was it was it was moving too

316
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slow to be flying I would say it was

317
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hovering yeah hovering it was hovering

318
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um and and how how wide and I I you know

319
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I know you were 10 years old but but how

320
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I would say it was this the size of

321
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maybe two maybe if each Wing was like a

322
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one or two was maybe a school bus if

323
00:14:16,970 --> 00:14:13,620
each Wing was a school bus it was that

324
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big yeah very interesting and and and no

325
00:14:22,730 --> 00:14:20,519
reaction from your dad do you think

326
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um that he didn't have a reaction

327
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because

328
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maybe it was something that he worked on

329
00:14:33,290 --> 00:14:31,139
that's Jimmy that's really what I'm

330
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thinking you know and again after he

331
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died and I was at a deli waiting for my

332
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sandwich and I got downloaded that whole

333
00:14:44,210 --> 00:14:41,519
scene it played in my head like a movie

334
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and I swear to you when I when I played

335
00:14:49,550 --> 00:14:46,920
it in my head first time and since if it

336
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happened I'm like my dad looked at it I

337
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saw his face he looked at it like you

338
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and I would look at anything that we'd

339
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look at a tree in the forest nothing

340
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it's no nothing no expression not happy

341
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not sad not angry not scared no

342
00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:04,320
expression at all but then when he

343
00:15:09,650 --> 00:15:06,959
winked at me Jimmy he winked at me and

344
00:15:12,710 --> 00:15:09,660
said come go Dad Dad he went come on kid

345
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let's go home right what's what's the

346
00:15:19,310 --> 00:15:15,420
history of the base itself

347
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boy I don't know it's been long closed

348
00:15:23,150 --> 00:15:21,240
it's been long close I really don't know

349
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that's a great question I think believe

350
00:15:27,769 --> 00:15:25,800
it or not I think Amazon

351
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I think Amazon is going to turn for

352
00:15:31,730 --> 00:15:30,000
Monmouth into an Amazon Super plant or

353
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something I think that's or Netflix one

354
00:15:36,350 --> 00:15:33,500
of those two giants

355
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but that's a great question I love that

356
00:15:39,470 --> 00:15:38,519
question well if he was if he was there

357
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for

358
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um over 40 years uh you certainly went

359
00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:44,760
on the base a lot didn't you you lived

360
00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:46,800
off base I get that but you went on the

361
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base didn't you

362
00:15:53,629 --> 00:15:50,519
in my entire life

363
00:15:56,689 --> 00:15:53,639
I was on the base once I think I was

364
00:15:59,329 --> 00:15:56,699
five for a parade I remember I was in I

365
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saw my dad's office once ever it was

366
00:16:02,689 --> 00:16:01,320
five or six and there was a marching

367
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band and a parade

368
00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:05,760
and later as a teenager when he let me

369
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borrow his car I would drop him off or

370
00:16:12,769 --> 00:16:10,560
pick him up at the front gate it was a

371
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military guard at the gate a couple

372
00:16:17,090 --> 00:16:15,360
times at the gate I was inside Jimmy as

373
00:16:18,769 --> 00:16:17,100
far as I know once ever in my entire

374
00:16:21,230 --> 00:16:18,779
life when I was five or six years old

375
00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:21,240
have you been able to interview anybody

376
00:16:25,449 --> 00:16:24,000
that worked at the base

377
00:16:28,970 --> 00:16:25,459
yeah

378
00:16:31,730 --> 00:16:28,980
no no I mean

379
00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:31,740
any peers of my dads would be dead I

380
00:16:37,490 --> 00:16:34,079
mean my dad died seven years ago and he

381
00:16:40,730 --> 00:16:37,500
was 86 so his peers are gone his peers

382
00:16:42,590 --> 00:16:40,740
are gone but but my generation and when

383
00:16:44,629 --> 00:16:42,600
I got that email the other day said hey

384
00:16:46,850 --> 00:16:44,639
my dad worked at Fort Mama too and he

385
00:16:49,249 --> 00:16:46,860
was weird and he did stuff in the sky

386
00:16:51,410 --> 00:16:49,259
also he never told us anything

387
00:16:53,449 --> 00:16:51,420
so I but that you made a good point I

388
00:16:55,730 --> 00:16:53,459
should reach out to see what other

389
00:16:57,230 --> 00:16:55,740
stories are out there yeah yeah there's

390
00:17:00,650 --> 00:16:57,240
there's got to be some history of the

391
00:17:02,509 --> 00:17:00,660
base okay so

392
00:17:08,689 --> 00:17:02,519
um I understand the sighting when you

393
00:17:10,929 --> 00:17:08,699
were 10 and uh 14 14 or 14. and uh and

394
00:17:13,549 --> 00:17:10,939
and your dad's education and him

395
00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:13,559
describing you know what he worked on

396
00:17:19,850 --> 00:17:15,839
you know things that that flew and radar

397
00:17:23,870 --> 00:17:19,860
system but what leads you to believe uh

398
00:17:27,530 --> 00:17:23,880
aside from those things that uh he was

399
00:17:29,890 --> 00:17:27,540
backwards engineering alien craft

400
00:17:33,470 --> 00:17:29,900
again it goes to

401
00:17:36,289 --> 00:17:33,480
the the expression on his face as though

402
00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:36,299
he recognized this this item in the sky

403
00:17:42,289 --> 00:17:38,880
it really looked like to me quite

404
00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:42,299
vividly that he knew what this was

405
00:17:48,049 --> 00:17:45,360
that's the only it Jimmy I can't prove

406
00:17:50,690 --> 00:17:48,059
that it's a gut feeling that I had but

407
00:17:51,409 --> 00:17:50,700
like I said if you marry it with what he

408
00:17:54,830 --> 00:17:51,419
did

409
00:17:56,330 --> 00:17:54,840
and who he was and that event and what

410
00:17:57,950 --> 00:17:56,340
my mom said about they showed him

411
00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:57,960
something top secret

412
00:18:02,450 --> 00:18:00,000
my dad was an electronics engineer

413
00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:02,460
genius I mean my dad invent he told me

414
00:18:06,890 --> 00:18:04,080
he was one of the earliest people to

415
00:18:08,450 --> 00:18:06,900
help invent your own see you know he had

416
00:18:10,549 --> 00:18:08,460
Asperger's you know you know these

417
00:18:11,690 --> 00:18:10,559
brilliant guys that are like Geniuses

418
00:18:14,029 --> 00:18:11,700
but then

419
00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:14,039
they have esper my dad had Asperger's my

420
00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:15,440
I have an uncle who's a world famous

421
00:18:21,650 --> 00:18:18,320
mathematician Frank Harari world famous

422
00:18:23,330 --> 00:18:21,660
mathematician the guy was Mr Asperger's

423
00:18:24,890 --> 00:18:23,340
if you look up Asperger's in a

424
00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:24,900
dictionary it would have been my Uncle

425
00:18:27,890 --> 00:18:25,860
Frank

426
00:18:31,850 --> 00:18:27,900
Asperger's ran in my father's family

427
00:18:33,409 --> 00:18:31,860
they had you know genius disease my dad

428
00:18:35,690 --> 00:18:33,419
would come home from work and then sit

429
00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:35,700
at the table eat dinner and the phone

430
00:18:38,810 --> 00:18:36,960
would ring right next to him he wouldn't

431
00:18:40,850 --> 00:18:38,820
answer the phone he wouldn't have no

432
00:18:43,130 --> 00:18:40,860
friends all the friends were my mother's

433
00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:43,140
friends my mother was the outgoing one

434
00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:45,960
my dad sat read the newspaper ate his

435
00:18:49,730 --> 00:18:48,240
dinner and went to bed and he worked and

436
00:18:51,409 --> 00:18:49,740
he worked and he worked and he worked he

437
00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:51,419
was a great father on weekends we played

438
00:18:56,150 --> 00:18:53,340
ball and went to the beach

439
00:18:58,850 --> 00:18:56,160
but um my dad was not a communicative

440
00:19:00,890 --> 00:18:58,860
person he was my dad was all in the

441
00:19:02,930 --> 00:19:00,900
brain everything and my dad was in the

442
00:19:03,950 --> 00:19:02,940
brain always thinking gear is turning

443
00:19:06,169 --> 00:19:03,960
all the time

444
00:19:07,970 --> 00:19:06,179
so I can't prove anything I can't prove

445
00:19:09,710 --> 00:19:07,980
anything that my father did but it's a

446
00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:09,720
gut feeling that I had after he died

447
00:19:16,010 --> 00:19:12,960
when I got this sort of vision and it

448
00:19:18,650 --> 00:19:16,020
gave me a premise to write a book and

449
00:19:21,470 --> 00:19:18,660
and and why did you decide to take it to

450
00:19:24,529 --> 00:19:21,480
the next level and write the book

451
00:19:26,930 --> 00:19:24,539
well a couple of things I'm

452
00:19:28,850 --> 00:19:26,940
I'm a writer I'm an author I did write a

453
00:19:30,890 --> 00:19:28,860
book that came out last summer and

454
00:19:32,570 --> 00:19:30,900
that's called flirting with Fame it's

455
00:19:35,090 --> 00:19:32,580
about the history of my career with

456
00:19:37,250 --> 00:19:35,100
celebrities and as a publicist and that

457
00:19:38,930 --> 00:19:37,260
did fairly well I got a lot of media for

458
00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:38,940
that but flirting with faith that was a

459
00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:41,039
memoir about my career

460
00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:43,679
after my dad died I was sad I was

461
00:19:47,770 --> 00:19:45,840
thinking you know I really missed this

462
00:19:50,750 --> 00:19:47,780
guy and maybe I should write something

463
00:19:52,810 --> 00:19:50,760
you know to honor his memory

464
00:19:55,250 --> 00:19:52,820
and and then

465
00:19:57,470 --> 00:19:55,260
in order to sandwich there was a paper

466
00:19:59,570 --> 00:19:57,480
placement at this restaurant and I asked

467
00:20:01,490 --> 00:19:59,580
the waiter for a pen and I'm just

468
00:20:04,130 --> 00:20:01,500
started to doodle on the paper placement

469
00:20:07,370 --> 00:20:04,140
and I doodle then I put what if a man

470
00:20:10,669 --> 00:20:07,380
finds out that his late father worked on

471
00:20:12,890 --> 00:20:10,679
UFOs and new aliens like like that was

472
00:20:15,950 --> 00:20:12,900
the premise for this book and then I

473
00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,960
wrote the letters ATC all capital a t c

474
00:20:19,610 --> 00:20:17,520
I didn't even know what it was at the

475
00:20:21,529 --> 00:20:19,620
time and I'm looking and I put what is

476
00:20:23,210 --> 00:20:21,539
ATC what does that mean

477
00:20:25,250 --> 00:20:23,220
and I'm looking at looking like after

478
00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:25,260
they came okay after they came who came

479
00:20:29,810 --> 00:20:28,080
aliens okay aliens came they knew the

480
00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:29,820
father of the lead character who's the

481
00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,679
lead character well I might as well be

482
00:20:33,950 --> 00:20:33,120
the lead character I'm an interesting

483
00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:33,960
person

484
00:20:38,510 --> 00:20:36,720
so I crafted a story about a fictitious

485
00:20:40,190 --> 00:20:38,520
version of me

486
00:20:43,010 --> 00:20:40,200
going through life

487
00:20:44,570 --> 00:20:43,020
with my I have an estranged son the lead

488
00:20:47,029 --> 00:20:44,580
character in the book has estranged

489
00:20:48,890 --> 00:20:47,039
children I have an estranged son a lead

490
00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:48,900
character in the book finds out along

491
00:20:54,350 --> 00:20:52,080
after his dad died that his dad was a

492
00:20:56,210 --> 00:20:54,360
UFO uh researcher

493
00:20:58,490 --> 00:20:56,220
and um

494
00:21:00,830 --> 00:20:58,500
the big picture for me on the book was

495
00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:00,840
to have benevolent aliens come to Earth

496
00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:04,440
to help Mankind and help cure our

497
00:21:10,010 --> 00:21:06,360
problems you know most stories and

498
00:21:12,110 --> 00:21:10,020
certainly most movies aliens come to uh

499
00:21:14,210 --> 00:21:12,120
you know kill us or eat us

500
00:21:16,370 --> 00:21:14,220
you know to you probably remember the

501
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:16,380
famous and I remember this clearly

502
00:21:20,390 --> 00:21:17,760
remember the famous Twilight Zone

503
00:21:22,909 --> 00:21:20,400
episode to serve man oh yeah one of my

504
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:22,919
favorites yeah me too I was probably 12

505
00:21:28,010 --> 00:21:25,200
and that came on and you don't get on

506
00:21:31,310 --> 00:21:28,020
the ship why not it's a cookbook to

507
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:31,320
serve man it's a cookbook I remember I

508
00:21:34,909 --> 00:21:33,120
got the chills just now I remember

509
00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:34,919
thinking oh my God they're gonna eat

510
00:21:39,710 --> 00:21:37,140
these people these poor people

511
00:21:41,090 --> 00:21:39,720
aliens are usually depicted as evil and

512
00:21:43,549 --> 00:21:41,100
horrible they're going to kill us or eat

513
00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:43,559
us right I thought you know what why

514
00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:45,360
can't they be beautiful and pleasant and

515
00:21:50,690 --> 00:21:47,820
nice tall white nordics beautiful long

516
00:21:52,430 --> 00:21:50,700
white hair blue eyes gorgeous in the

517
00:21:54,409 --> 00:21:52,440
movie version of my book

518
00:21:56,450 --> 00:21:54,419
there's a male character he would be

519
00:21:58,490 --> 00:21:56,460
Brad Pitt with long hair and the female

520
00:22:01,370 --> 00:21:58,500
character would be Blake Lively with

521
00:22:03,409 --> 00:22:01,380
long white hair right and and the lead

522
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:03,419
character made the schmucky the schmuck

523
00:22:06,830 --> 00:22:05,039
Elite character

524
00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:06,840
in the first chapter of the book it's

525
00:22:11,390 --> 00:22:09,480
his 70th birthday he's miserable he's

526
00:22:14,029 --> 00:22:11,400
depressed his business failed his

527
00:22:16,730 --> 00:22:14,039
children are estranged he hasn't gotten

528
00:22:19,310 --> 00:22:16,740
lucky on a date in years his first wife

529
00:22:21,289 --> 00:22:19,320
he killed her in a car accident he hates

530
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:21,299
everything he hates he just wants to be

531
00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:24,120
dead he wants to be dead on his birthday

532
00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:26,240
that's his goal in life

533
00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:29,039
he drives down to Malibu with a bottle

534
00:22:34,190 --> 00:22:32,159
of vodka and a ton of sleeping pills he

535
00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,200
goes to the beach he drinks vodka takes

536
00:22:38,570 --> 00:22:36,240
these pills he swims out to see naked

537
00:22:40,250 --> 00:22:38,580
and he's drowning that's the first

538
00:22:42,890 --> 00:22:40,260
chapter this man is drowning and he

539
00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:42,900
couldn't be happier couldn't be happier

540
00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:45,720
and as he's drowning an enormous UFO

541
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:47,700
comes out of Malibu the Pacific Ocean

542
00:22:53,210 --> 00:22:49,280
right above him

543
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,220
enormous beautiful UFO and themes him on

544
00:22:57,950 --> 00:22:54,960
board and saves his life

545
00:22:59,630 --> 00:22:57,960
then the craft slowly hovers over all of

546
00:23:02,289 --> 00:22:59,640
Los Angeles

547
00:23:05,210 --> 00:23:02,299
so slowly and it's so obviously

548
00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:05,220
otherworldly that the police and the

549
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:06,960
ambulances and the fire trucks and

550
00:23:12,590 --> 00:23:09,360
Military and media and everyone all the

551
00:23:14,810 --> 00:23:12,600
vehicles are following this crap and it

552
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:14,820
slowly goes all the way over to Dodger

553
00:23:19,250 --> 00:23:16,799
Stadium in my book it goes to Dodger

554
00:23:22,430 --> 00:23:19,260
Stadium where else would it go

555
00:23:24,529 --> 00:23:22,440
Dodger Stadium the door opens the

556
00:23:26,510 --> 00:23:24,539
beautiful male and female alien come

557
00:23:28,130 --> 00:23:26,520
down float down with the long white hair

558
00:23:29,930 --> 00:23:28,140
they're seven feet tall

559
00:23:32,090 --> 00:23:29,940
and then the schmucky guy that they just

560
00:23:33,529 --> 00:23:32,100
saved these naked and he's like flapping

561
00:23:36,049 --> 00:23:33,539
around like a fish and he's spinning

562
00:23:38,570 --> 00:23:36,059
around like a like a watch in a jewelry

563
00:23:40,970 --> 00:23:38,580
store window slowly rotating and they're

564
00:23:42,770 --> 00:23:40,980
people of Earth we're here don't be

565
00:23:44,930 --> 00:23:42,780
afraid right we're here to help you

566
00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:44,940
we're here to save Mankind we love your

567
00:23:49,310 --> 00:23:46,799
people we've been here for tens of

568
00:23:51,890 --> 00:23:49,320
thousands of years

569
00:23:55,070 --> 00:23:51,900
um we are benevolent do not be afraid of

570
00:23:57,310 --> 00:23:55,080
us there's nothing to fear and

571
00:24:02,029 --> 00:23:59,470
then they eat them

572
00:24:03,649 --> 00:24:02,039
well if they ate them then yeah it's

573
00:24:04,690 --> 00:24:03,659
only like page 12 I wouldn't have much

574
00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:04,700
of a book

575
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:07,200
let me let me stop you right there for a

576
00:24:11,169 --> 00:24:10,320
second and and we'll come back to this

577
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:11,179
um

578
00:24:15,169 --> 00:24:13,679
how many

579
00:24:17,810 --> 00:24:15,179
kids

580
00:24:20,570 --> 00:24:17,820
today

581
00:24:22,370 --> 00:24:20,580
know what their dad does

582
00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:22,380
for a job

583
00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:25,080
right and I think about that all the

584
00:24:31,789 --> 00:24:28,740
time here in here yeah yeah here in

585
00:24:32,810 --> 00:24:31,799
Palmdale right here in Palmdale I would

586
00:24:37,070 --> 00:24:32,820
say

587
00:24:39,289 --> 00:24:37,080
the majority of kids here don't have a

588
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:39,299
clue what their parents do for jobs they

589
00:24:41,870 --> 00:24:40,559
don't because their parents aren't

590
00:24:44,330 --> 00:24:41,880
talking about it

591
00:24:48,350 --> 00:24:44,340
and there's only one place to work right

592
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:48,360
it's it's right here and and if you work

593
00:24:54,590 --> 00:24:50,880
if you work there

594
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:54,600
um so anyway uh I I don't think

595
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:56,880
um I don't think it's abnormal you know

596
00:25:04,850 --> 00:24:59,520
if if you

597
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:04,860
security clearance you're not talking

598
00:25:09,710 --> 00:25:07,200
about what you're doing you're telling

599
00:25:11,690 --> 00:25:09,720
you're telling if it takes a fictitious

600
00:25:13,730 --> 00:25:11,700
story about what you know what you did

601
00:25:15,289 --> 00:25:13,740
at the office that day every single day

602
00:25:17,930 --> 00:25:15,299
you're making it up

603
00:25:19,730 --> 00:25:17,940
well yeah my childhood best friend his

604
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,740
father made coats

605
00:25:24,529 --> 00:25:22,320
he made coats we used to go to the Coat

606
00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:24,539
Factory and run around as kids and play

607
00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:27,000
with material because by his father made

608
00:25:32,210 --> 00:25:29,880
coats another friend of mine his child

609
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:32,220
had a camera store we would go and look

610
00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:33,600
at the cameras

611
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:35,580
another friend of mine's father had a

612
00:25:41,570 --> 00:25:37,980
pizzeria and I hope we'd go over a sub

613
00:25:44,029 --> 00:25:41,580
shop we'd go and eat my dad I went to

614
00:25:46,250 --> 00:25:44,039
his office once when I was five and it's

615
00:25:48,649 --> 00:25:46,260
a it's a it's it's a Memory that I have

616
00:25:50,510 --> 00:25:48,659
I I think I hear hear like the big bass

617
00:25:51,890 --> 00:25:50,520
drum it was it was a parade probably the

618
00:25:54,350 --> 00:25:51,900
Fourth of July

619
00:25:56,990 --> 00:25:54,360
but my dad was the most secretive guy in

620
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:57,000
the world man nobody knew it my mom to

621
00:26:00,289 --> 00:25:58,559
this day my mom said you know I never

622
00:26:01,789 --> 00:26:00,299
really knew what he did they were

623
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:01,799
married for 30 years

624
00:26:06,890 --> 00:26:04,559
to talk about keeping a secret

625
00:26:10,250 --> 00:26:06,900
if you're a top secret clearance

626
00:26:11,690 --> 00:26:10,260
military or related a contractor odds

627
00:26:14,750 --> 00:26:11,700
are good you're not going to blow your

628
00:26:17,390 --> 00:26:14,760
your your pension or or jeopardize your

629
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:17,400
career or be imprisoned right right

630
00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:20,880
right right right so did your did you

631
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:23,279
discuss the book with your mom

632
00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:25,440
my mom loves this book she's read it

633
00:26:29,870 --> 00:26:26,960
three times

634
00:26:31,549 --> 00:26:29,880
it took me I said Mom it only took 66

635
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:31,559
years for you to say that you were proud

636
00:26:37,370 --> 00:26:35,039
of me she loved it you Loretta three

637
00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:37,380
times that's awesome

638
00:26:42,049 --> 00:26:38,760
um but what did she think about the

639
00:26:45,169 --> 00:26:42,059
alien aspect of the father figure

640
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:45,179
she said Danny your father didn't know

641
00:26:49,789 --> 00:26:48,000
anything about the aliens enough with my

642
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:49,799
mother was always enough with the aliens

643
00:26:53,330 --> 00:26:51,840
and it's enough with the ale he didn't

644
00:26:55,789 --> 00:26:53,340
no he

645
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:55,799
did if he knew he wasn't going to tell

646
00:26:59,090 --> 00:26:56,640
you

647
00:27:01,789 --> 00:26:59,100
he wasn't going to tell anyone oh he

648
00:27:04,370 --> 00:27:01,799
didn't know about the aliens how did she

649
00:27:05,810 --> 00:27:04,380
know that really how did she how could

650
00:27:10,510 --> 00:27:05,820
she possibly no he didn't discuss

651
00:27:18,490 --> 00:27:13,610
growing up did you have an interest in

652
00:27:22,450 --> 00:27:18,500
in UFOs or your family not at all

653
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:25,310
the monkeys came on TV I was 10 years

654
00:27:29,149 --> 00:27:26,159
old

655
00:27:32,390 --> 00:27:29,159
and I was playing classical piano except

656
00:27:35,690 --> 00:27:32,400
from seven to ten the monkeys came on TV

657
00:27:37,130 --> 00:27:35,700
September 66 the first episode I look at

658
00:27:39,649 --> 00:27:37,140
my parents like I'm gonna play the drums

659
00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:39,659
because I love Mickey Dolan and I play

660
00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:42,720
in the drums ever since for 57 years

661
00:27:46,909 --> 00:27:44,580
I've been playing a drum when I met

662
00:27:48,830 --> 00:27:46,919
Mickey and I've met Mickey many times I

663
00:27:50,450 --> 00:27:48,840
said I played the drums my whole life

664
00:27:52,250 --> 00:27:50,460
because of you Mickey thanks he goes

665
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:52,260
yeah man that's cool I hear that all the

666
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:55,919
time no I'm sure I'm sure he does

667
00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:00,480
um but uh uh your mom did she ever uh

668
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,240
any sightings in the family besides you

669
00:28:08,870 --> 00:28:05,279
and your dad

670
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:08,880
well I had two two others much more

671
00:28:13,970 --> 00:28:11,520
recently I had to my brothers and my mom

672
00:28:16,970 --> 00:28:13,980
no no not at all I had one Jimmy you

673
00:28:21,470 --> 00:28:16,980
live in Palmdale right yeah my ex-wife

674
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:21,480
and kids moved to Lancaster from La in

675
00:28:25,490 --> 00:28:24,480
1992. my kids were little they were two

676
00:28:28,430 --> 00:28:25,500
and four

677
00:28:31,730 --> 00:28:28,440
when I got divorced I used to schlep out

678
00:28:33,289 --> 00:28:31,740
to uh Lancaster every weekend for five

679
00:28:36,590 --> 00:28:33,299
years and then they later moved to

680
00:28:39,769 --> 00:28:36,600
Valencia which is much closer yes in

681
00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:39,779
1996 I bought my son a telescope for his

682
00:28:43,549 --> 00:28:41,520
eighth birthday when we were in the

683
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:43,559
backyard and you know how clear I'm sure

684
00:28:49,490 --> 00:28:45,840
Palmdale the night sky is as clear as it

685
00:28:53,210 --> 00:28:49,500
is in Lancaster it's uh it's a mile away

686
00:28:55,789 --> 00:28:53,220
I think we share the same sky so it was

687
00:28:57,890 --> 00:28:55,799
it was beautiful sky it was black and

688
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:57,900
the stars were bright and anyways my son

689
00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:00,480
and I looked through a telescope 96

690
00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:02,880
summer and then we didn't see anything

691
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,820
except some planets I put him to bed I

692
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:07,679
came back to pack up the telescope I

693
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:09,840
look up in the sky in the far right

694
00:29:17,149 --> 00:29:12,960
corner of the sky this is in Lancaster I

695
00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:17,159
saw a very bright egg-shaped light very

696
00:29:21,230 --> 00:29:19,679
bright sort of off yellow white yellow

697
00:29:24,649 --> 00:29:21,240
color

698
00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:24,659
craft thing at the right hand corner of

699
00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:27,240
the sky and it traveled unbelievably

700
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:30,779
fast slow and steadily but fast in a

701
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:33,360
straight line across the entirety of the

702
00:29:36,529 --> 00:29:34,320
sky

703
00:29:39,289 --> 00:29:36,539
and I thought to myself wow it's a

704
00:29:44,210 --> 00:29:39,299
satellite it has to be a satellite

705
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,220
it's it's a very clear definitive path

706
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,320
is very bright and it looked but it

707
00:29:50,570 --> 00:29:48,480
looked metallic and it had to be a

708
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:50,580
satellite I said Jimmy it goes across

709
00:29:54,830 --> 00:29:52,260
the stock sky and then it stops for

710
00:29:56,269 --> 00:29:54,840
about 30 seconds in place stops and I'm

711
00:29:58,370 --> 00:29:56,279
like I wonder what happened to the

712
00:30:01,130 --> 00:29:58,380
satellite and then It reversed course

713
00:30:03,470 --> 00:30:01,140
and it went back the same way it came

714
00:30:04,610 --> 00:30:03,480
from across the entire Sky the same way

715
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:04,620
it came from

716
00:30:08,930 --> 00:30:06,480
and I was looking around thinking

717
00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:08,940
where's the TV news when you need a news

718
00:30:13,330 --> 00:30:10,860
crew right I didn't have a cell phone

719
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:13,340
with me at the time

720
00:30:19,070 --> 00:30:16,320
what did I just see it's not a combat an

721
00:30:20,570 --> 00:30:19,080
asteroid or a meteor I doubt it's not a

722
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:20,580
satellite because satellites don't stop

723
00:30:25,010 --> 00:30:23,279
and go back the same way so that was my

724
00:30:26,930 --> 00:30:25,020
second sighting and I remember that very

725
00:30:28,730 --> 00:30:26,940
vividly and I've never been able to

726
00:30:33,130 --> 00:30:28,740
explain if you have any thoughts about

727
00:30:35,570 --> 00:30:33,140
that one well that's that's every night

728
00:30:39,470 --> 00:30:35,580
it's every night out here that's it

729
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:39,480
that's every night and and Lancaster is

730
00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:42,720
right next to uh uh Edwards Air Force

731
00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:46,799
Base right and so we have uh we have two

732
00:30:52,669 --> 00:30:50,399
facilities out here we have of course uh

733
00:30:56,750 --> 00:30:52,679
you know the lockheed's Concords NASA

734
00:30:59,810 --> 00:30:56,760
Air Force plan 42 all of that and and

735
00:31:03,169 --> 00:30:59,820
Northrop Grumman uh they all occupy the

736
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:03,179
the same uh area for testing and

737
00:31:06,889 --> 00:31:04,320
building

738
00:31:10,190 --> 00:31:06,899
um it's it's large so that's that's over

739
00:31:14,269 --> 00:31:10,200
here it's down the street and then

740
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:14,279
um in between that so uh Edwards Air

741
00:31:19,610 --> 00:31:17,279
Force Base is seven eight well the South

742
00:31:22,610 --> 00:31:19,620
edge of it is just you know seven miles

743
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:22,620
away it's a big it's a big base in

744
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:25,200
between that you have the morocc dry

745
00:31:28,789 --> 00:31:26,640
lake bed

746
00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:28,799
which is like the Bonneville Salt Flats

747
00:31:34,010 --> 00:31:31,320
right or Groom Lake what have you

748
00:31:38,450 --> 00:31:34,020
um and that's where they did all of the

749
00:31:41,630 --> 00:31:38,460
uh uh like the X1 and and all of you

750
00:31:43,789 --> 00:31:41,640
know the the the speed of sound and all

751
00:31:46,909 --> 00:31:43,799
of that advanced Aerospace stuff that

752
00:31:50,570 --> 00:31:46,919
was all flown at merock at the dry lake

753
00:31:53,210 --> 00:31:50,580
bed there that's where Edwards is okay

754
00:31:55,850 --> 00:31:53,220
and and Lancaster sits in between the

755
00:31:58,190 --> 00:31:55,860
two so when you see something like that

756
00:31:59,330 --> 00:31:58,200
so that the testing what they do out

757
00:32:02,750 --> 00:31:59,340
here

758
00:32:06,409 --> 00:32:02,760
I saw it happen today actually

759
00:32:09,049 --> 00:32:06,419
um they I I can't be specific and I

760
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:09,059
wouldn't be specific if I knew anyway uh

761
00:32:15,950 --> 00:32:12,720
live on the air but they load up these

762
00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:15,960
transport planes big jets

763
00:32:21,169 --> 00:32:19,260
um and uh those take off they fly over

764
00:32:23,210 --> 00:32:21,179
my house they make a U-turn they never

765
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:23,220
get to altitude they're just a quarter

766
00:32:27,470 --> 00:32:25,440
mile in the air they're very low they're

767
00:32:28,909 --> 00:32:27,480
making U-turn they land in Edwards and

768
00:32:32,350 --> 00:32:28,919
then they offload they start their

769
00:32:35,750 --> 00:32:32,360
testing whatever it is so you see this

770
00:32:38,149 --> 00:32:35,760
constantly the flight test the transport

771
00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,159
and it's all going between it's the

772
00:32:44,269 --> 00:32:41,039
runway hopping between Edwards and the

773
00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:44,279
facility that's next to my house and all

774
00:32:51,289 --> 00:32:47,039
of that stuff goes into the air

775
00:32:53,690 --> 00:32:51,299
they're testing stuff and I see the the

776
00:32:57,470 --> 00:32:53,700
strangest things I've seen stuff over

777
00:32:59,870 --> 00:32:57,480
Edwards that I I simply can't explain

778
00:33:04,549 --> 00:32:59,880
um I mean I saw a flying saucer I saw a

779
00:33:06,409 --> 00:33:04,559
flying saucer over Edwards and I still

780
00:33:10,190 --> 00:33:06,419
can't explain that

781
00:33:12,049 --> 00:33:10,200
so you know and when one last comment

782
00:33:13,549 --> 00:33:12,059
about this and then I want to swing back

783
00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:13,559
to the book

784
00:33:18,169 --> 00:33:16,500
in the Wilson Davis document uh that

785
00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:18,179
came out and I know you're familiar with

786
00:33:24,049 --> 00:33:21,720
it there's a I I think it's page 13.

787
00:33:26,029 --> 00:33:24,059
um Admiral Wilson is is talking to Eric

788
00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:26,039
Davis and he says

789
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,500
um you know that he was out at some

790
00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:30,480
Aerospace Corporation I'm assuming it

791
00:33:34,190 --> 00:33:32,760
was Lockheed and they told him that they

792
00:33:37,850 --> 00:33:34,200
have a craft

793
00:33:39,769 --> 00:33:37,860
yeah but they can't get it to fly they

794
00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:39,779
think it can fly

795
00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:42,840
they can't get it to fly and that's

796
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:45,000
that's that's right here

797
00:33:52,130 --> 00:33:49,620
so yeah yeah I I think it's going on in

798
00:33:56,029 --> 00:33:52,140
Southern California is a big spot for it

799
00:33:58,009 --> 00:33:56,039
Area 51 certainly is a is a place for it

800
00:33:59,810 --> 00:33:58,019
but I think that there's multiple places

801
00:34:01,490 --> 00:33:59,820
all around the country including Wright

802
00:34:06,169 --> 00:34:01,500
Patterson

803
00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:06,179
um where uh they would take these things

804
00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:07,620
apart and try to figure out how they

805
00:34:12,530 --> 00:34:08,820
work

806
00:34:15,770 --> 00:34:12,540
well when I saw this egg

807
00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:15,780
crossed the sky and stop in place and

808
00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:18,540
then reverse course something that you

809
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:21,300
just said a second ago it was that yeah

810
00:34:25,129 --> 00:34:23,280
they're testing these things so think

811
00:34:28,010 --> 00:34:25,139
about it let's say that was man-made

812
00:34:29,450 --> 00:34:28,020
right it flew people let's say the

813
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:29,460
scientists were on the ground looking up

814
00:34:35,629 --> 00:34:32,399
okay Bill let her go for uh

815
00:34:37,970 --> 00:34:35,639
70 miles to the West okay stop it our

816
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,980
let's bring her home now right nothing

817
00:34:42,050 --> 00:34:39,599
like you know like when you're a kid

818
00:34:43,550 --> 00:34:42,060
with the little remote control airplanes

819
00:34:46,129 --> 00:34:43,560
with the little thing the remote control

820
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:46,139
you know because it it stopped this

821
00:34:52,089 --> 00:34:49,200
thing was flying across the entirety of

822
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:52,099
as far as my peripheral vision could see

823
00:34:57,770 --> 00:34:55,440
is that hundreds of miles of Sky I I

824
00:35:00,770 --> 00:34:57,780
don't know how to judge Sky miles

825
00:35:03,050 --> 00:35:00,780
but it's far right as I could see with

826
00:35:05,390 --> 00:35:03,060
my eye to his far left as I could see

827
00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:05,400
with my eye and then stop and then come

828
00:35:09,290 --> 00:35:07,020
all the way back

829
00:35:11,870 --> 00:35:09,300
I I think you're right I think they were

830
00:35:14,930 --> 00:35:11,880
testing something now was that man-made

831
00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:14,940
or alien I I couldn't tell you I have

832
00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:17,160
that I'm the slightest idea what do you

833
00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:19,680
I don't know what do you think well

834
00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:24,260
um I was uh I was I was over at Best Buy

835
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:27,599
I'm over at Best Buy coming out of Best

836
00:35:35,150 --> 00:35:31,200
Buy I've got some big box right and and

837
00:35:40,210 --> 00:35:35,160
uh I'm stepping up to my in somebody

838
00:35:42,770 --> 00:35:40,220
from behind me goes Fade to Black right

839
00:35:45,890 --> 00:35:42,780
and I turn around and go hey man he goes

840
00:35:47,630 --> 00:35:45,900
hey it's you and I said yeah it's me man

841
00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:47,640
I heard you were in Palm Bay yeah yeah

842
00:35:52,970 --> 00:35:49,980
yeah yeah and he goes man

843
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:52,980
um I got a Jeep and he points over and

844
00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:55,440
points at his Jeep I saw a man very cool

845
00:35:58,190 --> 00:35:56,700
he goes man I can't believe it's

846
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:58,200
defeated black Jeep I said yeah yeah

847
00:36:01,609 --> 00:35:59,760
cool cool

848
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:01,619
um and he goes hey

849
00:36:07,609 --> 00:36:03,359
um

850
00:36:11,290 --> 00:36:07,619
we used to have flying octagons here

851
00:36:14,450 --> 00:36:11,300
I said what if he goes

852
00:36:17,210 --> 00:36:14,460
in the 90s

853
00:36:20,450 --> 00:36:17,220
we would every single day they would

854
00:36:22,490 --> 00:36:20,460
test fly these black octagons

855
00:36:25,550 --> 00:36:22,500
they go octagons you can spend like

856
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:25,560
eight-sided like a stop sign but they

857
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,079
were flat I said how big were they and

858
00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:30,720
he and he points at Best Buy which is

859
00:36:34,609 --> 00:36:31,740
like

860
00:36:37,310 --> 00:36:34,619
75 feet away

861
00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:37,320
um it goes from here to to the store I

862
00:36:42,589 --> 00:36:39,839
go dude that's pretty big Yeah man they

863
00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:42,599
would just fly over palm and really

864
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:45,359
quiet no sound

865
00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:49,920
black octagons flying and now here's the

866
00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:52,980
this goes back to your point about your

867
00:36:58,370 --> 00:36:54,420
father

868
00:37:00,770 --> 00:36:58,380
um I have described and told what he has

869
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:00,780
said to me to a few researcher friends

870
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:02,160
of mine have you ever heard about this

871
00:37:11,870 --> 00:37:03,119
no

872
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:11,880
this guy at at uh at Best Buy

873
00:37:17,930 --> 00:37:15,119
he said that they would be in school on

874
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:17,940
the playground and everybody would just

875
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:20,640
sit there and watch them he said but you

876
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,040
know it's Palmdale there's things going

877
00:37:27,650 --> 00:37:25,680
on here and they're testing stuff but it

878
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:27,660
was fun to watch and we would stop and

879
00:37:33,290 --> 00:37:30,260
watch it but here's the thing

880
00:37:35,089 --> 00:37:33,300
there's no pictures of this

881
00:37:37,849 --> 00:37:35,099
there's nobody talking about this

882
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,859
there's nobody saying that they worked

883
00:37:42,050 --> 00:37:39,359
on these projects

884
00:37:44,450 --> 00:37:42,060
you know they keep that stuff on the

885
00:37:46,730 --> 00:37:44,460
down low in in this community and

886
00:37:48,950 --> 00:37:46,740
they're just not it's it's stuff that

887
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:48,960
just isn't talked about I mean it's in

888
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:50,880
the interests of National Security but

889
00:37:55,010 --> 00:37:53,280
like you said you know you've got a job

890
00:37:56,990 --> 00:37:55,020
you've got a career and you respect it

891
00:38:00,349 --> 00:37:57,000
and you're supposed to keep your mouth

892
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:00,359
shut you keep your mouth shut but how

893
00:38:05,810 --> 00:38:02,240
are those things not on on the news

894
00:38:07,370 --> 00:38:05,820
that's what I'm saying that's exactly

895
00:38:09,550 --> 00:38:07,380
but that's exactly what I'm saying why

896
00:38:13,130 --> 00:38:09,560
isn't that on the front page of the LA

897
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:13,140
New York Times yeah your friend at Best

898
00:38:19,069 --> 00:38:15,680
Buy was a kid in school seen

899
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:19,079
unbelievable things like I saw in 1970.

900
00:38:24,349 --> 00:38:21,599
why doesn't he go to the teacher or the

901
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:24,359
principal and say Excuse Me Miss Smith

902
00:38:29,690 --> 00:38:27,440
what in a God's name is that UFO up

903
00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:29,700
outside that we're looking at right now

904
00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:33,240
and she doesn't calls KCBS news and say

905
00:38:38,930 --> 00:38:35,579
um I'm a teacher you should come see

906
00:38:39,710 --> 00:38:38,940
this how how do people not think to do

907
00:38:41,050 --> 00:38:39,720
that

908
00:38:45,530 --> 00:38:41,060
right

909
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:45,540
when it happens out here every day you

910
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:47,040
guys should be in the news every single

911
00:38:51,710 --> 00:38:49,920
how is that not new listen listen listen

912
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:51,720
listen

913
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:55,440
this is I'm not I am not in any way

914
00:39:00,170 --> 00:38:58,320
trying to be funny ha ha

915
00:39:02,270 --> 00:39:00,180
um I talked about this on the air this

916
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:02,280
is a few months ago and I'm driving

917
00:39:07,010 --> 00:39:03,900
around town it's the middle of the day

918
00:39:08,990 --> 00:39:07,020
it's like noon and and Palmdale there's

919
00:39:11,950 --> 00:39:09,000
no tall build everything's flat here you

920
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:11,960
know everything is one story tall right

921
00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:14,640
there's a few two-story things but

922
00:39:19,310 --> 00:39:16,500
they're houses

923
00:39:21,710 --> 00:39:19,320
and uh but it's a very flat City anyway

924
00:39:23,390 --> 00:39:21,720
so you can see everything you know you

925
00:39:25,550 --> 00:39:23,400
could just see across you can see

926
00:39:26,770 --> 00:39:25,560
everything and I'm driving around and I

927
00:39:30,829 --> 00:39:26,780
see

928
00:39:34,130 --> 00:39:30,839
flying right over the freeway and right

929
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:34,140
over the the city I stopped my Jeep to

930
00:39:43,490 --> 00:39:39,119
see to watch this a black looked like an

931
00:39:47,210 --> 00:39:43,500
airliner a black airliner like a you

932
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:47,220
know a big you know Bowen 767 or

933
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,160
something just a giant Airbus a giant

934
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:53,040
airliner but it's painted black this

935
00:39:58,089 --> 00:39:57,119
thing is flying hauling balls at Treetop

936
00:40:02,990 --> 00:39:58,099
level

937
00:40:06,310 --> 00:40:03,000
wow right across the city it's like

938
00:40:09,069 --> 00:40:06,320
50 feet in the air flies across the city

939
00:40:12,770 --> 00:40:09,079
turns and I'm watching it

940
00:40:15,770 --> 00:40:12,780
Bank turn comes back around levels out

941
00:40:18,829 --> 00:40:15,780
and flies out across the city and and

942
00:40:22,490 --> 00:40:18,839
comes back and does another lap

943
00:40:25,310 --> 00:40:22,500
now right I'm talking

944
00:40:27,770 --> 00:40:25,320
you can hit it with a rock hit it with a

945
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:27,780
baseball it was like that no why did you

946
00:40:33,230 --> 00:40:30,480
not take out your phone but in other oh

947
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:33,240
man do you know how many videos I have

948
00:40:40,270 --> 00:40:36,240
shot on this phone of stuff in Palmdale

949
00:40:46,490 --> 00:40:44,150
I've got I've got loads anyway

950
00:40:48,349 --> 00:40:46,500
in any other City

951
00:40:50,510 --> 00:40:48,359
that right there

952
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,520
would have been huge news and people

953
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:52,640
calling 9-1-1

954
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:56,400
complaints no this that what is going on

955
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,079
it would have been huge news you can't

956
00:41:02,829 --> 00:41:00,720
do that over you know a plane like that

957
00:41:06,770 --> 00:41:02,839
over Chicago Nashville

958
00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:06,780
you know Wichita Kansas City no no

959
00:41:18,349 --> 00:41:15,589
it's unbelievable just another

960
00:41:20,450 --> 00:41:18,359
why do you think the media even all

961
00:41:22,490 --> 00:41:20,460
right so a couple weeks ago obviously we

962
00:41:24,890 --> 00:41:22,500
had the China balloon okay it was a

963
00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:24,900
China balloon from China a man-made

964
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:26,760
balloon from China China China China

965
00:41:32,089 --> 00:41:29,280
everyone knows it was China they

966
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:32,099
followed it it was on live TV they shot

967
00:41:37,490 --> 00:41:34,800
it down CNN there was a crew getting it

968
00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:37,500
out of the ocean onto all on TV okay

969
00:41:41,329 --> 00:41:39,540
terrific how about the three objects the

970
00:41:43,130 --> 00:41:41,339
week later right

971
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:43,140
how about those three objects they were

972
00:41:47,450 --> 00:41:45,480
never shown they were never barely

973
00:41:49,790 --> 00:41:47,460
discussed never shown

974
00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:49,800
Biden said one of them was an amateur

975
00:41:55,250 --> 00:41:52,920
balloon hobby group okay even if that

976
00:41:57,290 --> 00:41:55,260
was true what about the other two

977
00:41:59,870 --> 00:41:57,300
you need to tell me we never found them

978
00:42:01,790 --> 00:41:59,880
they were never shown on TV they would

979
00:42:03,770 --> 00:42:01,800
never explained they were discussed it's

980
00:42:06,050 --> 00:42:03,780
like a magician I have a cousin who's a

981
00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:06,060
world famous magician and he always says

982
00:42:09,230 --> 00:42:07,680
you look in this hand your audience

983
00:42:11,770 --> 00:42:09,240
looks in his hand while you're doing the

984
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:11,780
trick in the other hand that's right

985
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:14,640
it's where you're looking China balloon

986
00:42:18,470 --> 00:42:16,560
China balloon okay fine what about the

987
00:42:20,329 --> 00:42:18,480
other three objects those were not those

988
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:20,339
were not man-made the other three at

989
00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:21,839
least two of the other three were not

990
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:24,119
man-made how come no one's ever talked

991
00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:25,680
about them anymore

992
00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:28,320
I was I watched CNN and Jim Acosta goes

993
00:42:34,670 --> 00:42:30,420
like I think I hear the X-Files theme

994
00:42:40,310 --> 00:42:36,950
in 2023

995
00:42:43,069 --> 00:42:40,320
major media are still so remarkably

996
00:42:45,770 --> 00:42:43,079
skeptical right after the New York Times

997
00:42:48,050 --> 00:42:45,780
in 2017 with Leslie Keane and the front

998
00:42:50,510 --> 00:42:48,060
page of the times and the uaps and the

999
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:50,520
three famous videos but they're still

1000
00:42:55,490 --> 00:42:53,520
like X-Files Little Green Men why do you

1001
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:55,500
think the media just will not Embrace

1002
00:43:01,250 --> 00:42:57,200
this whole idea

1003
00:43:04,190 --> 00:43:01,260
yeah yeah they keep they they keep

1004
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:04,200
letting their foot off the gas right but

1005
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:06,960
here's I I think there's even something

1006
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:09,599
more interesting to your point

1007
00:43:15,410 --> 00:43:13,520
is that uh we had the Chinese balloon

1008
00:43:18,349 --> 00:43:15,420
allegedly

1009
00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:18,359
we had that shoot that thing down and

1010
00:43:23,809 --> 00:43:21,960
then suddenly we're trigger happy and

1011
00:43:25,790 --> 00:43:23,819
we're firing missiles all over North

1012
00:43:29,290 --> 00:43:25,800
America that's never happened before

1013
00:43:32,809 --> 00:43:29,300
except for here in Palmdale

1014
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:32,819
we shot down something uh it was a drone

1015
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:36,540
actually we uh yeah a drone in in the

1016
00:43:43,609 --> 00:43:41,280
1960s that was being test flown and they

1017
00:43:46,910 --> 00:43:43,619
lost control of it and it was radio

1018
00:43:48,290 --> 00:43:46,920
control pilotless drone and my father my

1019
00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:48,300
father could have been there Jimmy he

1020
00:43:54,410 --> 00:43:50,480
used to go to Edwards

1021
00:43:56,750 --> 00:43:54,420
they they fired up a plane and shot that

1022
00:43:58,730 --> 00:43:56,760
thing down over the City of Palmdale and

1023
00:44:01,849 --> 00:43:58,740
nobody gave a crap it's Palmdale man

1024
00:44:05,630 --> 00:44:01,859
it's it's what we do anyway so we shoot

1025
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:05,640
down three more objects back to back to

1026
00:44:09,530 --> 00:44:07,200
back to back two on the same weekend

1027
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:09,540
right and then

1028
00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:10,800
nothing

1029
00:44:17,690 --> 00:44:15,359
shoot down anymore there isn't any

1030
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,700
comments from the Department of Defense

1031
00:44:23,569 --> 00:44:19,920
suddenly there's nothing in the skies

1032
00:44:25,790 --> 00:44:23,579
anymore there's nothing happening how

1033
00:44:27,950 --> 00:44:25,800
how is it that we have boom boom boom

1034
00:44:32,410 --> 00:44:27,960
boom boom four things right right in a

1035
00:44:34,670 --> 00:44:32,420
row right and and and now

1036
00:44:37,010 --> 00:44:34,680
nothing nothing

1037
00:44:40,130 --> 00:44:37,020
now that's that's the question we need

1038
00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:40,140
to be asking is there nothing in the

1039
00:44:44,750 --> 00:44:42,480
skies now or

1040
00:44:48,829 --> 00:44:44,760
you're not talking about it

1041
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:48,839
the only reason why we know that they

1042
00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:52,740
shot anything down well we got the one

1043
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,540
on the east coast the Chinese balloon we

1044
00:44:58,130 --> 00:44:56,400
got that on video because it happened

1045
00:44:59,870 --> 00:44:58,140
next to a beach city and there were

1046
00:45:01,309 --> 00:44:59,880
people out there and they knew the

1047
00:45:04,609 --> 00:45:01,319
balloon was there and everybody was

1048
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,619
watching it the other three objects we

1049
00:45:09,410 --> 00:45:06,960
know nothing about them right we know

1050
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:09,420
nothing we would have never known about

1051
00:45:14,089 --> 00:45:11,760
them if the government had hadn't said

1052
00:45:16,670 --> 00:45:14,099
anything we certainly wouldn't have

1053
00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:16,680
known that missiles were used to shoot

1054
00:45:22,510 --> 00:45:19,740
them down and f-22s or f-18s or whatever

1055
00:45:26,089 --> 00:45:22,520
they were you know what aircraft and and

1056
00:45:29,329 --> 00:45:26,099
the only reason we know anything

1057
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:29,339
because the government said so and so

1058
00:45:35,390 --> 00:45:32,640
now they are not saying anything

1059
00:45:37,130 --> 00:45:35,400
so if they're not saying anything

1060
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:37,140
because there's nothing in the sky and

1061
00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:38,880
there's nothing happening

1062
00:45:43,370 --> 00:45:40,920
they're not saying anything because they

1063
00:45:44,990 --> 00:45:43,380
don't want to talk about it but there's

1064
00:45:47,569 --> 00:45:45,000
no way that you're going to have you

1065
00:45:50,329 --> 00:45:47,579
know that many incidents missiles fired

1066
00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:50,339
over North America and then suddenly

1067
00:45:55,250 --> 00:45:51,599
nothing

1068
00:45:56,930 --> 00:45:55,260
it just completely stopped so I think

1069
00:45:59,630 --> 00:45:56,940
that's a bigger question

1070
00:46:02,089 --> 00:45:59,640
I remember when Biden went on TV

1071
00:46:04,130 --> 00:46:02,099
and said uh

1072
00:46:07,309 --> 00:46:04,140
you know we yes we shot down the China

1073
00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:07,319
balloon and then the other three he said

1074
00:46:11,569 --> 00:46:09,960
one of them was a hobby a hobby balloon

1075
00:46:13,370 --> 00:46:11,579
from some hobby group I think was

1076
00:46:16,430 --> 00:46:13,380
Montana or something

1077
00:46:18,890 --> 00:46:16,440
and and that's it but but China China

1078
00:46:21,230 --> 00:46:18,900
Russia China China Russia deflection

1079
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:21,240
told magic trick it's all deflections

1080
00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:23,760
even if the one of the three even if one

1081
00:46:29,569 --> 00:46:27,000
of the three over Canada Alaska was a

1082
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:29,579
balloon even if it was okay that still

1083
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:31,920
leaves two they never showed them on TV

1084
00:46:37,250 --> 00:46:34,560
they never showed us the the remnants

1085
00:46:39,710 --> 00:46:37,260
but I didn't no one to ever said Awards

1086
00:46:41,870 --> 00:46:39,720
the me and the media just oh yeah China

1087
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:41,880
balloon yeah the China balloon

1088
00:46:45,890 --> 00:46:44,400
there were four I mean each of the four

1089
00:46:47,710 --> 00:46:45,900
items should be have been of equal

1090
00:46:50,450 --> 00:46:47,720
weight

1091
00:46:52,370 --> 00:46:50,460
and the other three were like the orphan

1092
00:46:53,809 --> 00:46:52,380
freckled red-headed freckled

1093
00:46:56,329 --> 00:46:53,819
stepchildren no one ever asked about

1094
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:56,339
them anymore yeah yeah that's true and

1095
00:47:01,609 --> 00:46:58,800
and here here's the other here's the

1096
00:47:03,609 --> 00:47:01,619
other part you know

1097
00:47:06,410 --> 00:47:03,619
they were imaged

1098
00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:06,420
you know they have gun camera footage

1099
00:47:14,809 --> 00:47:11,460
you know that there is video hi-res and

1100
00:47:17,870 --> 00:47:14,819
if they were just hobbyist balloons

1101
00:47:21,730 --> 00:47:17,880
show us you're right of course I mean

1102
00:47:25,550 --> 00:47:21,740
who gives a crap if it was a balloon

1103
00:47:27,650 --> 00:47:25,560
weather balloon hobbyist balloon mylar

1104
00:47:31,790 --> 00:47:27,660
party balloon from somebody's Bar

1105
00:47:33,710 --> 00:47:31,800
Mitzvah by anything of course what's

1106
00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:33,720
what's the harm in that I I just don't

1107
00:47:38,089 --> 00:47:35,520
get it well you know we have sensitive

1108
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,099
camera it's a balloon if it's really

1109
00:47:43,010 --> 00:47:40,800
what you say it is show us the footage

1110
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:43,020
and then here's the other interesting

1111
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:45,599
part dangerous enough to shoot out of

1112
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,730
a hobby balloon

1113
00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:53,410
yeah

1114
00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:55,859
dangerous enough to shoot out of the sky

1115
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:58,079
with a missile but not important enough

1116
00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:01,440
to go and find and then Jimmy the other

1117
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:04,500
deflection was well you know the UK the

1118
00:48:09,170 --> 00:48:06,960
Yukon and Alaska and Lake Huron you know

1119
00:48:11,030 --> 00:48:09,180
the rugged terrain you know rugged

1120
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:11,040
terrain you know we're never going to

1121
00:48:15,530 --> 00:48:12,900
find them that was the other deflection

1122
00:48:18,050 --> 00:48:15,540
yes we fished out the China balloon from

1123
00:48:20,329 --> 00:48:18,060
the the Atlantic Ocean okay the Atlantic

1124
00:48:22,430 --> 00:48:20,339
Ocean is pretty deep we got that on live

1125
00:48:25,250 --> 00:48:22,440
TV they were fishing it out I watched it

1126
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:25,260
on live David the other three to this

1127
00:48:29,569 --> 00:48:27,359
day we've never found with our

1128
00:48:33,770 --> 00:48:29,579
technology we never found any remnants

1129
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,780
yeah yeah it's it's yes it's not it's

1130
00:48:38,450 --> 00:48:35,520
not the truth

1131
00:48:39,890 --> 00:48:38,460
and we have gotten two I mean I don't

1132
00:48:42,170 --> 00:48:39,900
want to get on a soapbox and I

1133
00:48:43,970 --> 00:48:42,180
definitely never ever discuss Politics

1134
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:43,980
on this show

1135
00:48:49,970 --> 00:48:45,839
um but I'll say this

1136
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:49,980
we've gotten really used to and really

1137
00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:51,839
complacent with

1138
00:48:57,950 --> 00:48:54,180
accepting lies

1139
00:49:01,130 --> 00:48:57,960
we don't challenge anything anymore

1140
00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:01,140
we don't shout I cannot believe that

1141
00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:04,260
there isn't a journalist

1142
00:49:10,010 --> 00:49:08,460
um a civilian group of somebody to stand

1143
00:49:13,569 --> 00:49:10,020
up and go

1144
00:49:16,550 --> 00:49:13,579
wait a minute and ask these questions

1145
00:49:20,569 --> 00:49:16,560
nobody everybody just wanted to just let

1146
00:49:23,210 --> 00:49:20,579
that one lie and just let that go I was

1147
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:23,220
um I was hosting a conference here in LA

1148
00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:24,800
that weekend

1149
00:49:31,609 --> 00:49:28,079
and one incident happened on Friday and

1150
00:49:35,230 --> 00:49:31,619
one was on Sunday right I'm speaking

1151
00:49:37,730 --> 00:49:35,240
okay Dan I'm speaking all right and

1152
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:37,740
somebody somebody in the audience you

1153
00:49:43,130 --> 00:49:39,540
know like stands up and goes hey man uh

1154
00:49:44,990 --> 00:49:43,140
uh uh we just uh we just shot down

1155
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:45,000
another UFO

1156
00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:47,520
sat down another year I go when one

1157
00:49:53,450 --> 00:49:51,180
minute ago right that was on Friday and

1158
00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:53,460
uh like holy crap and then turns around

1159
00:50:00,290 --> 00:49:57,060
uh you know on Sunday uh again I'm

1160
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:00,300
speaking I'm uh it's my luncheon

1161
00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:04,319
and as I'm I'm talking to everybody

1162
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:06,839
oh yeah I got a microphone and and and

1163
00:50:12,349 --> 00:50:10,079
having fun I think it was Caroline Corey

1164
00:50:14,589 --> 00:50:12,359
actually you know Caroline I think it

1165
00:50:24,770 --> 00:50:14,599
was Caroline Caroline stands up

1166
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:27,349
it was big enough news for the media

1167
00:50:33,710 --> 00:50:30,960
you know and covering this and and you

1168
00:50:35,930 --> 00:50:33,720
know missiles over North America and and

1169
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:35,940
nobody followed up

1170
00:50:42,650 --> 00:50:39,599
everybody just accepted the explanation

1171
00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:42,660
for all of this I don't get it man I

1172
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:45,720
don't get it I don't they clumped the

1173
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:49,260
other three into well China just spied

1174
00:50:53,210 --> 00:50:51,359
on us so these other things we're not

1175
00:50:55,309 --> 00:50:53,220
quite sure what they are but China

1176
00:50:58,430 --> 00:50:55,319
Russia China Russia China Russia China

1177
00:51:00,349 --> 00:50:58,440
Russia no not necessarily

1178
00:51:03,370 --> 00:51:00,359
right show us you showed us the first

1179
00:51:08,990 --> 00:51:06,710
China Russia and no one CNN New York

1180
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:09,000
nobody no major press

1181
00:51:13,490 --> 00:51:12,000
kept going Mr Mr President what happened

1182
00:51:16,130 --> 00:51:13,500
with the other three what happened we

1183
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:16,140
got to say nobody nobody pressed him

1184
00:51:21,530 --> 00:51:19,440
well I was hoping when Biden said I

1185
00:51:23,030 --> 00:51:21,540
remember I watched it live he said yeah

1186
00:51:24,349 --> 00:51:23,040
we uh we shot down some more things

1187
00:51:26,210 --> 00:51:24,359
we're not quite sure what they are but

1188
00:51:27,890 --> 00:51:26,220
one of them was a hobby balloon so you

1189
00:51:31,069 --> 00:51:27,900
know for sure we know that but the China

1190
00:51:33,950 --> 00:51:31,079
balloon uh in the Atlantic totaled

1191
00:51:37,069 --> 00:51:33,960
deflection and and he never said another

1192
00:51:39,410 --> 00:51:37,079
word now does Biden know you know does

1193
00:51:41,329 --> 00:51:39,420
our military and whoever runs the UFO

1194
00:51:43,849 --> 00:51:41,339
program for our military did they tell

1195
00:51:45,530 --> 00:51:43,859
Biden I thought maybe he was going to be

1196
00:51:47,809 --> 00:51:45,540
the disclosure president the other day

1197
00:51:49,970 --> 00:51:47,819
when he went on TV to talk about those

1198
00:51:51,829 --> 00:51:49,980
three I thought come on Joe you can do

1199
00:51:54,589 --> 00:51:51,839
it baby you can do it let's do it I

1200
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:54,599
really I was watching but thinking do it

1201
00:51:58,190 --> 00:51:56,400
just tell us these were not man-made all

1202
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:58,200
you have to do these are not man-made

1203
00:52:02,150 --> 00:52:00,000
objects we're looking into it all he had

1204
00:52:03,230 --> 00:52:02,160
to say right one sentence all he had to

1205
00:52:05,870 --> 00:52:03,240
say and it would have been a true

1206
00:52:08,109 --> 00:52:05,880
sentence and and maybe the media would

1207
00:52:12,770 --> 00:52:08,119
have woken up from their slumber

1208
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:12,780
the uh the other part to this

1209
00:52:21,950 --> 00:52:18,480
all right is I think even more telling

1210
00:52:23,329 --> 00:52:21,960
which is if it was a commercial a

1211
00:52:31,490 --> 00:52:23,339
corporation

1212
00:52:34,190 --> 00:52:31,500
would have been named by the government

1213
00:52:37,490 --> 00:52:34,200
right the corporation would have been

1214
00:52:41,450 --> 00:52:37,500
hell but you know how

1215
00:52:44,329 --> 00:52:41,460
um you know how if you get lost you know

1216
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:44,339
you get lost here in in you know you're

1217
00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:46,079
you're up hiking in the Hollywood Hills

1218
00:52:50,809 --> 00:52:48,720
or Europe hiking in Chantry Flats and

1219
00:52:53,450 --> 00:52:50,819
you get lost and and you're stuck on a

1220
00:52:55,730 --> 00:52:53,460
cliff and they send out the fire

1221
00:52:56,569 --> 00:52:55,740
department helicopter right to rescue

1222
00:53:17,150 --> 00:52:56,579
you

1223
00:53:21,530 --> 00:53:17,160
airspace and disrupts commercial traffic

1224
00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:21,540
has to get shot down by an at 22 Raptor

1225
00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:24,420
with Maverick missiles

1226
00:53:30,049 --> 00:53:27,660
um uh you don't get a bill for that you

1227
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:30,059
don't get you you're not held

1228
00:53:34,609 --> 00:53:32,640
responsible for that you know you're

1229
00:53:37,849 --> 00:53:34,619
putting lives into aren't you named

1230
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:37,859
isn't the company named is it the no

1231
00:53:44,569 --> 00:53:41,760
we've got none of that none of that I

1232
00:53:47,630 --> 00:53:44,579
can if if I launched a balloon

1233
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:47,640
and they fired missiles at it I'm sure

1234
00:53:54,770 --> 00:53:50,000
they would send me a bill

1235
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:54,780
and they'd send reporters to your house

1236
00:54:00,410 --> 00:53:56,480
too

1237
00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:00,420
I would be publicly shamed like any

1238
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:03,000
Corporation would right the Exxon Valdez

1239
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:06,960
right publicly Chained and so when

1240
00:54:10,430 --> 00:54:08,880
something like that happened but in this

1241
00:54:13,010 --> 00:54:10,440
case

1242
00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:13,020
nothing and there's been a couple of

1243
00:54:20,210 --> 00:54:15,839
little suggestions it was this group no

1244
00:54:22,670 --> 00:54:20,220
not no no I I there's something funky

1245
00:54:24,049 --> 00:54:22,680
here if there was if there was a

1246
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:24,059
corporation

1247
00:54:27,890 --> 00:54:26,400
um involved with this I think that the

1248
00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:27,900
government would be pointing fingers

1249
00:54:34,730 --> 00:54:32,220
very quickly and would say here's a fine

1250
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:34,740
you know you you have to pay for the

1251
00:54:39,829 --> 00:54:37,200
fuel on that jet you know you have to

1252
00:54:43,490 --> 00:54:39,839
pay for the missile that costs American

1253
00:54:46,329 --> 00:54:43,500
taxpayers 500 000 you know to shoot that

1254
00:54:48,829 --> 00:54:46,339
thing down out of the sky

1255
00:54:51,490 --> 00:54:48,839
didn't those three happen just before

1256
00:54:55,490 --> 00:54:51,500
alien con were you an aliencon

1257
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:55,500
uh no alien Khan was that was last week

1258
00:55:01,609 --> 00:54:59,280
now alien Khan was March 4-5 Yeah March

1259
00:55:04,490 --> 00:55:01,619
well okay two weeks yeah yeah it was two

1260
00:55:06,770 --> 00:55:04,500
weeks yeah so the so the the buzz I was

1261
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:06,780
there selling my book the buds at

1262
00:55:13,069 --> 00:55:10,319
aliencon was that the three were um

1263
00:55:16,190 --> 00:55:13,079
we're alien drunk can you hear me did

1264
00:55:21,109 --> 00:55:18,530
did anybody hear that it was like a bit

1265
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:21,119
boom

1266
00:55:27,770 --> 00:55:24,720
it was like uh it was like a a bass note

1267
00:55:30,049 --> 00:55:27,780
did anybody hear that

1268
00:55:32,089 --> 00:55:30,059
I mean it was low too it's like 60

1269
00:55:34,930 --> 00:55:32,099
Cycles maybe even lower

1270
00:55:38,809 --> 00:55:34,940
that was crazy

1271
00:55:42,290 --> 00:55:38,819
did anybody hear that low bass note I'm

1272
00:55:44,410 --> 00:55:42,300
gonna put that in the chat did anybody

1273
00:55:49,790 --> 00:55:44,420
here

1274
00:55:52,609 --> 00:55:49,800
that low bass note has that not happened

1275
00:55:55,549 --> 00:55:52,619
to you before no no no that was weird

1276
00:55:56,690 --> 00:55:55,559
sounding whoa

1277
00:55:58,790 --> 00:55:56,700
um

1278
00:56:00,349 --> 00:55:58,800
I don't know what that was oh yeah yeah

1279
00:56:06,410 --> 00:56:00,359
I'm getting yes

1280
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:06,420
that's so cool maybe maybe the aliens

1281
00:56:11,210 --> 00:56:07,760
are listening

1282
00:56:13,250 --> 00:56:11,220
alien con the the buzz Jimmy there was

1283
00:56:15,970 --> 00:56:13,260
that they were um

1284
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:15,980
uh non-man-made drones

1285
00:56:19,849 --> 00:56:18,000
non-man-made drones and they were

1286
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:19,859
unoccupied drones

1287
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:21,839
that that seemed to be the buzz going

1288
00:56:25,190 --> 00:56:22,680
around

1289
00:56:27,530 --> 00:56:25,200
at that show yeah yeah that's alien con

1290
00:56:29,089 --> 00:56:27,540
you know you know I love Giorgio and the

1291
00:56:31,309 --> 00:56:29,099
crew over there but it you know

1292
00:56:33,890 --> 00:56:31,319
everybody everybody that weekend is

1293
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:33,900
wearing the tinfoil hats and they watch

1294
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:39,359
me too me too you know you I would I

1295
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:40,160
um

1296
00:56:46,790 --> 00:56:44,880
uh I want nothing more than the truth to

1297
00:56:48,770 --> 00:56:46,800
come out you know I know we're being

1298
00:56:51,650 --> 00:56:48,780
visited I've seen too many crazy things

1299
00:56:54,670 --> 00:56:51,660
I I that that I can't explain not all of

1300
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:54,680
it is you know E.T it might be ET

1301
00:56:58,790 --> 00:56:56,640
derived

1302
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:58,800
um and not all of it is ET but the

1303
00:57:02,210 --> 00:57:00,240
government knows more than they are

1304
00:57:10,190 --> 00:57:02,220
saying we got to take a quick break Dan

1305
00:57:14,809 --> 00:57:12,589
this is Jimmy Church of Fade to Black

1306
00:57:17,089 --> 00:57:14,819
please visit all of our sponsors we're

1307
00:57:20,930 --> 00:57:17,099
taking a quick break here all of the

1308
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:20,940
links are below and we'll be right back

1309
00:57:25,849 --> 00:57:23,520
hey everybody it's Billy Carson also

1310
00:57:27,290 --> 00:57:25,859
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1311
00:57:31,010 --> 00:57:27,300
talk to you about a very special event

1312
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:31,020
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1313
00:57:34,730 --> 00:57:33,119
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1314
00:57:37,130 --> 00:57:34,740
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1315
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:37,140
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1316
00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:38,640
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1317
00:57:42,349 --> 00:57:40,380
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1318
00:57:44,569 --> 00:57:42,359
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1319
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:44,579
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1320
00:57:47,329 --> 00:57:45,839
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1321
00:57:49,370 --> 00:57:47,339
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1322
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:49,380
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1323
00:57:53,210 --> 00:57:51,200
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1324
00:57:54,829 --> 00:57:53,220
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1325
00:57:57,950 --> 00:57:54,839
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1326
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,960
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1327
00:58:01,609 --> 00:57:59,839
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1328
00:58:03,049 --> 00:58:01,619
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1329
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:03,059
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1330
00:58:07,309 --> 00:58:05,520
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1331
00:58:10,130 --> 00:58:07,319
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1332
00:58:12,049 --> 00:58:10,140
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1333
00:58:13,970 --> 00:58:12,059
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1334
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:13,980
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1335
00:58:17,870 --> 00:58:16,319
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1336
00:58:19,490 --> 00:58:17,880
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1337
00:58:22,130 --> 00:58:19,500
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1338
00:58:24,109 --> 00:58:22,140
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1339
00:58:26,030 --> 00:58:24,119
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1340
00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:26,040
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1341
00:58:31,790 --> 00:58:28,680
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1342
00:58:33,589 --> 00:58:31,800
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1343
00:58:35,390 --> 00:58:33,599
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1344
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:35,400
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1345
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,720
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1346
00:58:40,549 --> 00:58:38,880
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1347
00:58:43,010 --> 00:58:40,559
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1348
00:58:44,810 --> 00:58:43,020
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1349
00:58:48,650 --> 00:58:44,820
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1350
00:58:51,770 --> 00:58:48,660
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1351
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:51,780
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1352
00:58:57,170 --> 00:58:54,960
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1353
00:59:00,650 --> 00:58:57,180
peripod festival at the Hyatt Regency

1354
00:59:03,109 --> 00:59:00,660
right here in Valencia California it's a

1355
00:59:06,170 --> 00:59:03,119
live one-day podcast Awards it's a film

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festival it's a full-on media event

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we're going to have Sky watching it's

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00:59:12,829 --> 00:59:10,079
going to be a Lifetime Achievement Award

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presented to Linda Moulton Howe right

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00:59:16,910 --> 00:59:14,819
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1361
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1362
00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:19,619
paranormal media for consideration you

1363
00:59:24,789 --> 00:59:21,599
can do all of that on the links below

1364
00:59:26,690 --> 00:59:24,799
for info and tickets go to

1365
00:59:29,770 --> 00:59:26,700
parapodfilmfest.com that's

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00:59:35,450 --> 00:59:33,829
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01:00:36,650 --> 01:00:31,319
coffee I drink it is the best and it's

1391
01:00:36,660 --> 01:00:43,630
that's right River Moon coffee

1392
01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:48,650
I love my coffee uh hey Dan are you

1393
01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:51,119
still in uh Valencia

1394
01:00:56,690 --> 01:00:54,480
no I never lived in Valencia my my kids

1395
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:56,700
and ex-wife live there I'm in Beverly

1396
01:01:00,770 --> 01:00:58,799
Hills oh you're of course you're in

1397
01:01:02,510 --> 01:01:00,780
Beverly Hills

1398
01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:02,520
I'm not rich I'm not a millionaire Timmy

1399
01:01:05,450 --> 01:01:04,200
I have to read you something you're not

1400
01:01:08,930 --> 01:01:05,460
going to believe this

1401
01:01:11,870 --> 01:01:08,940
I got an email while during your break

1402
01:01:14,270 --> 01:01:11,880
can I read this to you yeah sure

1403
01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:14,280
okay I just got this a few minutes Dan I

1404
01:01:18,069 --> 01:01:16,020
am listening to you on Jimmy Church

1405
01:01:20,990 --> 01:01:18,079
328-23

1406
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:21,000
remarkably enough my father Millard

1407
01:01:24,829 --> 01:01:22,319
Brenner

1408
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:24,839
was also a radar engineer at Fort

1409
01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:27,119
Monmouth in the 1950s

1410
01:01:32,329 --> 01:01:29,760
and I know what he was working on

1411
01:01:33,849 --> 01:01:32,339
they were building and programming the

1412
01:01:35,410 --> 01:01:33,859
very first

1413
01:01:37,970 --> 01:01:35,420
radar-controlled

1414
01:01:38,930 --> 01:01:37,980
anti-aircraft missile battery in the

1415
01:01:43,069 --> 01:01:38,940
world

1416
01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:43,079
with Nike Ajax missiles to destroy the

1417
01:01:49,130 --> 01:01:46,559
Soviet backfire bombers that were flying

1418
01:01:52,010 --> 01:01:49,140
over the North Pole to Nuke us

1419
01:01:54,170 --> 01:01:52,020
apparently my father was not under any

1420
01:01:56,809 --> 01:01:54,180
security restraints to tell me that much

1421
01:01:58,730 --> 01:01:56,819
about a project his project I also

1422
01:02:01,309 --> 01:01:58,740
remember going to the fourth of the

1423
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:01,319
Fourth of July as a child to see a

1424
01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:03,359
performance by the military and marching

1425
01:02:11,890 --> 01:02:06,540
band is this unbelievable It's a Small

1426
01:02:15,730 --> 01:02:14,329
I wouldn't want to paint it

1427
01:02:18,109 --> 01:02:15,740
right

1428
01:02:21,549 --> 01:02:18,119
that's Stephen um

1429
01:02:24,410 --> 01:02:21,559
Steven Wright you've been ready

1430
01:02:26,890 --> 01:02:24,420
our fathers also had one of the Nike

1431
01:02:31,730 --> 01:02:26,900
Nikes which I believe were liquid-fueled

1432
01:02:34,430 --> 01:02:31,740
explode around 1957 killing a soldier

1433
01:02:36,589 --> 01:02:34,440
since these were potentially nuclear

1434
01:02:38,510 --> 01:02:36,599
warhead missiles there was a lot of Buzz

1435
01:02:40,970 --> 01:02:38,520
about that in the Press but apparently

1436
01:02:43,849 --> 01:02:40,980
the Nike didn't have a nuke on it so

1437
01:02:46,970 --> 01:02:43,859
there was no radiation my father his

1438
01:02:49,309 --> 01:02:46,980
father had a number of UFO books on his

1439
01:02:51,890 --> 01:02:49,319
shelf besides the ones he had about

1440
01:02:56,089 --> 01:02:51,900
physics and electronics and radar

1441
01:02:57,250 --> 01:02:56,099
he had a book by Wilhelm Reich do you

1442
01:03:01,609 --> 01:02:57,260
know that name

1443
01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:01,619
bizarre orgone Oregon energy theories

1444
01:03:06,289 --> 01:03:03,200
and he had

1445
01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:06,299
rupelts bizarre the case for the UFO

1446
01:03:12,849 --> 01:03:10,079
and keho's books as well so this guy's

1447
01:03:15,650 --> 01:03:12,859
father and my father were were

1448
01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:15,660
contemporaries apparently yeah yeah yeah

1449
01:03:19,069 --> 01:03:16,640
yeah

1450
01:03:21,710 --> 01:03:19,079
you never know who's listening to the

1451
01:03:25,789 --> 01:03:21,720
show you know it's a it's a big audience

1452
01:03:27,950 --> 01:03:25,799
and and uh it's pretty amazing to me uh

1453
01:03:30,349 --> 01:03:27,960
the emails that I get um after every

1454
01:03:33,950 --> 01:03:30,359
show and every guess it's it's just

1455
01:03:36,109 --> 01:03:33,960
varied and uh you know mainly people

1456
01:03:38,690 --> 01:03:36,119
that have never heard from before uh

1457
01:03:42,829 --> 01:03:38,700
like you uh right now

1458
01:03:44,510 --> 01:03:42,839
um anyway the peripod I was asking uh I

1459
01:03:46,190 --> 01:03:44,520
I thought you said Valencia but anyway

1460
01:03:48,170 --> 01:03:46,200
so you're in Beverly Hills you're going

1461
01:03:50,829 --> 01:03:48,180
to come out to the parapod festival uh

1462
01:03:53,690 --> 01:03:50,839
this weekend up in Valencia

1463
01:03:56,990 --> 01:03:53,700
no uh actually I have a friend's wedding

1464
01:03:59,870 --> 01:03:57,000
to go to but uh yeah much more important

1465
01:04:01,730 --> 01:03:59,880
uh was that UFO con last weekend up in

1466
01:04:05,329 --> 01:04:01,740
San Francisco do you know Lorien Fenton

1467
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:05,339
no I don't the solarian puts on the UFO

1468
01:04:12,230 --> 01:04:08,640
con up in San Fran and that's where I

1469
01:04:13,970 --> 01:04:12,240
bonded with Steve Bassett uh he and I

1470
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:13,980
had a little bit dinner very quick

1471
01:04:17,450 --> 01:04:15,839
meeting he was meeting with some people

1472
01:04:19,730 --> 01:04:17,460
I was having dinner with my brother and

1473
01:04:22,309 --> 01:04:19,740
I told him about my book and I gave him

1474
01:04:23,870 --> 01:04:22,319
my card he goes oh you're a publicist he

1475
01:04:25,970 --> 01:04:23,880
goes we have to work together so I'm

1476
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:25,980
waiting to hear back Steve and I are

1477
01:04:29,329 --> 01:04:27,359
going to get together sometime in the

1478
01:04:31,309 --> 01:04:29,339
near future yeah Steve's got a couple of

1479
01:04:36,049 --> 01:04:31,319
big things that he's working on right

1480
01:04:38,569 --> 01:04:36,059
now and uh good PR is definitely in his

1481
01:04:41,150 --> 01:04:38,579
future with uh with what he's got I

1482
01:04:43,490 --> 01:04:41,160
can't I can't discuss it any further and

1483
01:04:46,130 --> 01:04:43,500
we we can't discuss it any further but

1484
01:04:48,530 --> 01:04:46,140
he's got some stuff he's got some pretty

1485
01:04:51,950 --> 01:04:48,540
exciting things going on right now

1486
01:04:54,770 --> 01:04:51,960
and uh the uh the announcements are

1487
01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:54,780
going to be happening here very soon but

1488
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:58,799
um the uh the other part about this uh

1489
01:05:04,609 --> 01:05:01,200
uh getting back on track

1490
01:05:07,730 --> 01:05:04,619
the other part about this when

1491
01:05:10,789 --> 01:05:07,740
um we have the announcements that

1492
01:05:12,950 --> 01:05:10,799
happened back in December 2017. you

1493
01:05:15,410 --> 01:05:12,960
mentioned Leslie Kane and Ralph

1494
01:05:17,690 --> 01:05:15,420
Blumenthal earlier

1495
01:05:20,930 --> 01:05:17,700
um and and the way that the media uh

1496
01:05:22,789 --> 01:05:20,940
took off and and ran with the story it

1497
01:05:25,910 --> 01:05:22,799
it tells me a couple of things and the

1498
01:05:27,710 --> 01:05:25,920
first thing that it tells me is that

1499
01:05:31,309 --> 01:05:27,720
um the media

1500
01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:31,319
is okay with this subject when somebody

1501
01:05:37,789 --> 01:05:34,319
tells them it's okay right like a switch

1502
01:05:40,970 --> 01:05:37,799
gets flipped and it it it's go time

1503
01:05:42,410 --> 01:05:40,980
because after years of Silence on this

1504
01:05:45,650 --> 01:05:42,420
issue decades

1505
01:05:49,069 --> 01:05:45,660
suddenly right it's not only front page

1506
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:49,079
news but it's it's it's

1507
01:05:55,309 --> 01:05:52,799
um uh mainstream and it's on all of the

1508
01:05:57,910 --> 01:05:55,319
networks in prime time

1509
01:06:00,230 --> 01:05:57,920
for the next couple of years

1510
01:06:02,270 --> 01:06:00,240
and I thought that that was pretty

1511
01:06:06,170 --> 01:06:02,280
interesting the other part about this

1512
01:06:10,849 --> 01:06:06,180
though is the way that the Department of

1513
01:06:15,049 --> 01:06:10,859
Defense was kind of handling this

1514
01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:15,059
um suggesting E.T on one hand

1515
01:06:20,210 --> 01:06:17,280
um very openly

1516
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:20,220
um the creation of not only a task force

1517
01:06:26,029 --> 01:06:22,079
but a new moniker that we're all using

1518
01:06:27,829 --> 01:06:26,039
now uaps right all of this is is brand

1519
01:06:31,430 --> 01:06:27,839
new stuff and it happened very very

1520
01:06:34,910 --> 01:06:31,440
quickly the third part about this

1521
01:06:38,410 --> 01:06:34,920
is it is it from out there

1522
01:06:41,450 --> 01:06:38,420
or is it ours

1523
01:06:44,029 --> 01:06:41,460
and the Department of Defense has never

1524
01:06:48,170 --> 01:06:44,039
been clear on that

1525
01:06:52,849 --> 01:06:48,180
and it makes you wonder that if the

1526
01:06:55,370 --> 01:06:52,859
Nimitz wasn't a test of of some

1527
01:06:58,910 --> 01:06:55,380
technology that we possess

1528
01:07:03,049 --> 01:06:58,920
um it was done during uh Naval exercises

1529
01:07:03,950 --> 01:07:03,059
right it's it's on a carrier task force

1530
01:07:07,010 --> 01:07:03,960
group

1531
01:07:11,089 --> 01:07:07,020
and that's a pretty good testing

1532
01:07:14,029 --> 01:07:11,099
atmosphere right and so when we you know

1533
01:07:17,630 --> 01:07:14,039
you have that theater going on and it's

1534
01:07:21,710 --> 01:07:17,640
big why not test something and it's that

1535
01:07:24,589 --> 01:07:21,720
that possibility lies out there and it

1536
01:07:26,510 --> 01:07:24,599
seems that uh the government and the

1537
01:07:28,970 --> 01:07:26,520
media and even some of the witnesses

1538
01:07:31,130 --> 01:07:28,980
that have come forward have suggested

1539
01:07:34,970 --> 01:07:31,140
all three things

1540
01:07:37,609 --> 01:07:34,980
right and could it can't be all three

1541
01:07:39,529 --> 01:07:37,619
right it has to be something specific

1542
01:07:42,289 --> 01:07:39,539
but isn't that an interesting

1543
01:07:45,470 --> 01:07:42,299
conversation to be happening right now

1544
01:07:48,529 --> 01:07:45,480
in the media about this subject

1545
01:07:51,230 --> 01:07:48,539
well you know in 2017 is when uh the

1546
01:07:53,569 --> 01:07:51,240
uaps and Leslie Keane and lumenthal and

1547
01:07:56,329 --> 01:07:53,579
the New York Times and that was huge

1548
01:07:59,089 --> 01:07:56,339
huge huge huge and it's like okay

1549
01:08:01,069 --> 01:07:59,099
the UF uaps and we don't know where they

1550
01:08:02,690 --> 01:08:01,079
are and maybe they're alien but we're

1551
01:08:05,690 --> 01:08:02,700
not quite sure and that got tons of

1552
01:08:08,930 --> 01:08:05,700
press like you said and okay we are now

1553
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:08,940
seven years later seven years later

1554
01:08:14,710 --> 01:08:11,760
from that and we just had again we just

1555
01:08:18,050 --> 01:08:14,720
had the three over North America and and

1556
01:08:21,410 --> 01:08:18,060
it's skirt like a frisbee skirting a

1557
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:21,420
frisbee off a swimming pool those they

1558
01:08:25,490 --> 01:08:23,279
oh yeah yeah yeah three things okay but

1559
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:25,500
the China balloon so it just skirted it

1560
01:08:31,309 --> 01:08:28,080
didn't capture the the media's attention

1561
01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:31,319
why weren't people hounding the military

1562
01:08:35,870 --> 01:08:34,080
and Biden and every single day Mr

1563
01:08:37,849 --> 01:08:35,880
President you need to tell us we need

1564
01:08:40,430 --> 01:08:37,859
they just like like you said earlier

1565
01:08:41,809 --> 01:08:40,440
they just accept lies they accept look

1566
01:08:43,550 --> 01:08:41,819
at this hand don't look at that hand

1567
01:08:45,169 --> 01:08:43,560
look over here because we only want you

1568
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:45,179
to see the China boat

1569
01:08:50,329 --> 01:08:47,040
so

1570
01:08:52,849 --> 01:08:50,339
media is very is like

1571
01:08:55,309 --> 01:08:52,859
kicking and and scratching and biting

1572
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:55,319
they don't wanna they don't wanna cover

1573
01:09:01,550 --> 01:08:57,359
they don't want to cover this topic they

1574
01:09:03,110 --> 01:09:01,560
don't want to uh to to give Credence to

1575
01:09:05,570 --> 01:09:03,120
people who believe in ancient alien

1576
01:09:08,570 --> 01:09:05,580
Theory like I do very very much

1577
01:09:12,829 --> 01:09:08,580
I'm a very big believer in that

1578
01:09:16,189 --> 01:09:12,839
um I met Giorgio in 2007 at a mufon la

1579
01:09:18,590 --> 01:09:16,199
seminar at the same church Studio City

1580
01:09:20,689 --> 01:09:18,600
Jimmy where I'm at I was there I was

1581
01:09:22,430 --> 01:09:20,699
there that night yeah okay so I was

1582
01:09:24,470 --> 01:09:22,440
there and I met him I listened to his

1583
01:09:26,150 --> 01:09:24,480
remarks now this is before Ancient

1584
01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:26,160
Aliens was on TV

1585
01:09:30,289 --> 01:09:28,799
uh I just I started really studying the

1586
01:09:32,570 --> 01:09:30,299
subject in of seven

1587
01:09:34,130 --> 01:09:32,580
and I went and I heard him and first

1588
01:09:37,130 --> 01:09:34,140
time at any of these you know the

1589
01:09:40,490 --> 01:09:37,140
pyramids and and cave drawings and and

1590
01:09:42,650 --> 01:09:40,500
biblical references and and all of these

1591
01:09:45,050 --> 01:09:42,660
wonderful things DN alien DNA made

1592
01:09:47,930 --> 01:09:45,060
mankind I was sitting there like a kid

1593
01:09:50,510 --> 01:09:47,940
in a candy store I was enthralled I was

1594
01:09:52,729 --> 01:09:50,520
really truly I was touched and after the

1595
01:09:55,070 --> 01:09:52,739
end of it I shook his hand I go Giorgio

1596
01:09:57,950 --> 01:09:55,080
I actually teared my eye I said Giorgio

1597
01:09:59,510 --> 01:09:57,960
you've opened my my mind in my heart to

1598
01:10:01,669 --> 01:09:59,520
new possibilities

1599
01:10:03,590 --> 01:10:01,679
and thank you and then I hug them and

1600
01:10:06,890 --> 01:10:03,600
and and he said thanks man that's cool

1601
01:10:08,750 --> 01:10:06,900
so since then I've just been learning

1602
01:10:11,330 --> 01:10:08,760
about there's so much no I mean you're

1603
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:11,340
certainly an authority in this field but

1604
01:10:16,430 --> 01:10:13,440
I've been meeting uh Nick Pope has

1605
01:10:18,890 --> 01:10:16,440
become kind of a buddy of mine I he gave

1606
01:10:20,510 --> 01:10:18,900
me a wonderful quote from my book I met

1607
01:10:22,490 --> 01:10:20,520
him at alien con I'm gonna have dinner

1608
01:10:24,410 --> 01:10:22,500
with him at Musa with Frank's in

1609
01:10:25,970 --> 01:10:24,420
Hollywood the next time he's in La he

1610
01:10:27,470 --> 01:10:25,980
has a standing offer with me to have

1611
01:10:29,209 --> 01:10:27,480
dinner

1612
01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:29,219
um I've I've been immersing myself

1613
01:10:34,669 --> 01:10:32,640
because of my father and this book and

1614
01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:34,679
and my interest and and the timing

1615
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:36,719
certainly happened for me my book came

1616
01:10:41,330 --> 01:10:39,360
out right when the three uaps over North

1617
01:10:44,030 --> 01:10:41,340
America were out the same week my book

1618
01:10:46,729 --> 01:10:44,040
came out so all of these things have

1619
01:10:48,830 --> 01:10:46,739
clustered together for me I just my

1620
01:10:50,270 --> 01:10:48,840
passion I'm a publicist I know media

1621
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:50,280
I've been working with media for 40

1622
01:10:55,250 --> 01:10:52,800
years every day for 40 years

1623
01:10:57,830 --> 01:10:55,260
I want to shake them by the throat and

1624
01:11:01,130 --> 01:10:57,840
say what is wrong with you people there

1625
01:11:04,070 --> 01:11:01,140
is so much evidence here go listen to

1626
01:11:06,350 --> 01:11:04,080
Eric or Giorgio or you or Nick Pope go

1627
01:11:09,470 --> 01:11:06,360
go watch Ancient Aliens just watch it

1628
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:09,480
five episodes and and be open-minded to

1629
01:11:14,810 --> 01:11:11,760
the possibilities you know read Richard

1630
01:11:17,810 --> 01:11:14,820
Dolan's books read Leslie King look into

1631
01:11:20,270 --> 01:11:17,820
this topic oh little green man my mother

1632
01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:20,280
enough with the aliens enough with the

1633
01:11:26,689 --> 01:11:23,280
people are not open-minded and

1634
01:11:30,770 --> 01:11:26,699
open-hearted our parents our our parents

1635
01:11:32,209 --> 01:11:30,780
I'm 66. my parents my teachers my Rabbi

1636
01:11:35,330 --> 01:11:32,219
my friends

1637
01:11:37,550 --> 01:11:35,340
we didn't discuss

1638
01:11:39,229 --> 01:11:37,560
life in outer space we discussed hey did

1639
01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:39,239
you get the new Led Zeppelin record yeah

1640
01:11:42,890 --> 01:11:41,280
that song Stairway to Heaven man is that

1641
01:11:45,350 --> 01:11:42,900
the greatest song you ever heard come on

1642
01:11:46,970 --> 01:11:45,360
over my house and then tomorrow we'll go

1643
01:11:49,550 --> 01:11:46,980
to your house and listen to Dark Side of

1644
01:11:51,410 --> 01:11:49,560
the Moon that was my that was my life

1645
01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:51,420
that was those were my years

1646
01:11:56,090 --> 01:11:53,760
but this is a very passion I'm very

1647
01:11:58,850 --> 01:11:56,100
passionate about this topic and and it

1648
01:12:00,530 --> 01:11:58,860
pains me my daughter's 33 I always say

1649
01:12:02,330 --> 01:12:00,540
to her I said you know I hope you live

1650
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:02,340
long enough to see disclosure I hope it

1651
01:12:06,169 --> 01:12:04,800
happens in your lifetime you know I

1652
01:12:08,750 --> 01:12:06,179
don't know that it's going to happen in

1653
01:12:12,169 --> 01:12:08,760
my I hope it happens it hurts well I

1654
01:12:13,370 --> 01:12:12,179
think that the media uh found out very

1655
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:13,380
quickly

1656
01:12:19,310 --> 01:12:16,080
uh how much interest there is in this

1657
01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:19,320
subject they've been you know silent on

1658
01:12:26,570 --> 01:12:23,760
it for for decades but when they chose

1659
01:12:30,110 --> 01:12:26,580
to cover it they saw what the clicks

1660
01:12:33,410 --> 01:12:30,120
were like you know if if uh if Tucker

1661
01:12:36,970 --> 01:12:33,420
Carlson is talking about UFOs on prime

1662
01:12:41,330 --> 01:12:36,980
time or or the BBC or CNN

1663
01:12:44,570 --> 01:12:41,340
it's because there is a huge interest in

1664
01:12:47,630 --> 01:12:44,580
this and that the world is ready for it

1665
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:47,640
so the media knows that if they cover

1666
01:12:55,490 --> 01:12:50,400
this now it's it's not a funny subject

1667
01:12:59,630 --> 01:12:55,500
this isn't I think that most most of the

1668
01:13:01,610 --> 01:12:59,640
not most of the people that that uh I

1669
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:01,620
don't want to say that are educated but

1670
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:04,800
those that are aware know that the

1671
01:13:09,770 --> 01:13:06,719
universe is a very very very very very

1672
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:09,780
big place you know half of this planet

1673
01:13:13,450 --> 01:13:12,239
doesn't give a crap they're worried

1674
01:13:18,229 --> 01:13:13,460
about

1675
01:13:20,510 --> 01:13:18,239
meals and food and and are housed warm

1676
01:13:21,890 --> 01:13:20,520
every night and they're not necessarily

1677
01:13:25,250 --> 01:13:21,900
on the internet and they're certainly

1678
01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:25,260
not listening to fade to black but

1679
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:28,260
um so for them well yeah but that's not

1680
01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:31,199
who the media is is catering to that's

1681
01:13:39,229 --> 01:13:35,040
not uh who advertisers are advertising

1682
01:13:41,630 --> 01:13:39,239
to on on Fox and but so that part of it

1683
01:13:44,590 --> 01:13:41,640
the other half of the world no they they

1684
01:13:49,189 --> 01:13:44,600
get it I I truly do I don't think that

1685
01:13:51,050 --> 01:13:49,199
anybody would be surprised that E.T is

1686
01:13:53,930 --> 01:13:51,060
visiting this planet no I think that

1687
01:13:55,970 --> 01:13:53,940
they understand how many how many uh

1688
01:13:57,290 --> 01:13:55,980
galaxies are out there how many planets

1689
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,300
are out there and how big the universe

1690
01:14:01,610 --> 01:13:59,040
really is I don't think it's a big deal

1691
01:14:03,050 --> 01:14:01,620
anymore and the media now understands

1692
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:03,060
that

1693
01:14:07,130 --> 01:14:05,040
you know you wonder if you know you and

1694
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:07,140
I grew up I think I'm older than you but

1695
01:14:11,450 --> 01:14:09,360
you know Walter we grew up with Walter

1696
01:14:13,850 --> 01:14:11,460
Cronkite Walter Cronkite was the most

1697
01:14:16,850 --> 01:14:13,860
trusted man in America he delivered the

1698
01:14:19,130 --> 01:14:16,860
news every word he said was true the

1699
01:14:21,530 --> 01:14:19,140
only time my dad ever watched TV was he

1700
01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:21,540
we watched Walter Cronkite right he was

1701
01:14:28,370 --> 01:14:25,199
trusted he was reliable you wonder if if

1702
01:14:31,010 --> 01:14:28,380
he were alive today would he have the

1703
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:31,020
balls right where where is a Walter

1704
01:14:36,050 --> 01:14:33,120
crunk where is someone who in major

1705
01:14:38,450 --> 01:14:36,060
media presence who would have the balls

1706
01:14:41,149 --> 01:14:38,460
and say I'm I'm breaking through I'm

1707
01:14:43,010 --> 01:14:41,159
gonna I'm gonna be the one to say you

1708
01:14:44,930 --> 01:14:43,020
know it's from my research and my

1709
01:14:47,090 --> 01:14:44,940
investigations and my studies I've

1710
01:14:49,790 --> 01:14:47,100
talked to experts or all over the book

1711
01:14:52,850 --> 01:14:49,800
talk to Eric and George L and Jimmy and

1712
01:14:54,649 --> 01:14:52,860
Nick Pope and and William Henry and

1713
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:54,659
George Knapp I've talked to these people

1714
01:15:00,530 --> 01:14:57,360
I you know I've spent hours this stuff

1715
01:15:02,689 --> 01:15:00,540
is real folks right what why can't we

1716
01:15:06,729 --> 01:15:02,699
have even a Tucker call center or a Jake

1717
01:15:09,290 --> 01:15:06,739
Tapper why can't we have a major one

1718
01:15:11,450 --> 01:15:09,300
right through the Clutter and it says

1719
01:15:14,330 --> 01:15:11,460
you know what this stuff is real let's

1720
01:15:17,390 --> 01:15:14,340
it's coming disclosure is coming this is

1721
01:15:19,970 --> 01:15:17,400
real you guys and and let's start to

1722
01:15:23,050 --> 01:15:19,980
have an open dialogue I'm still waiting

1723
01:15:25,990 --> 01:15:23,060
for that day well we did have Larry King

1724
01:15:29,930 --> 01:15:26,000
but the timing was wrong

1725
01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:29,940
Larry Larry definitely supported it and

1726
01:15:36,290 --> 01:15:33,120
was very curious and and did a lot of

1727
01:15:38,870 --> 01:15:36,300
really great shows covering this

1728
01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:38,880
um but the timing was wrong

1729
01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:42,239
if Larry King was around today

1730
01:15:48,830 --> 01:15:44,960
um covering it like he did in the past

1731
01:15:52,490 --> 01:15:48,840
with you know uaps and the task force

1732
01:15:54,350 --> 01:15:52,500
and Congress and Angela brand and Rubio

1733
01:15:57,290 --> 01:15:54,360
and everything that's going on he would

1734
01:16:01,130 --> 01:15:57,300
it would be a different world but you

1735
01:16:04,090 --> 01:16:01,140
know we and and Larry as big as he was

1736
01:16:06,850 --> 01:16:04,100
you know Larry

1737
01:16:09,169 --> 01:16:06,860
Larry at at

1738
01:16:11,570 --> 01:16:09,179
one period in time he was the biggest

1739
01:16:13,669 --> 01:16:11,580
voice of anything in the world right I

1740
01:16:17,390 --> 01:16:13,679
mean that was that was a big deal the

1741
01:16:19,970 --> 01:16:17,400
Larry King live show and and uh but the

1742
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:19,980
timing was wrong right I was gonna say I

1743
01:16:24,649 --> 01:16:22,080
think he was his Peak I think was the

1744
01:16:26,990 --> 01:16:24,659
maybe mid 80s to maybe midnight mid to

1745
01:16:29,149 --> 01:16:27,000
late 90s I used to see him at Nate Nails

1746
01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:29,159
Deli all the time I've met Larry I used

1747
01:16:33,290 --> 01:16:31,920
to represent Sid Caesar so since Caesar

1748
01:16:34,910 --> 01:16:33,300
and I used to have breakfast with Larry

1749
01:16:38,209 --> 01:16:34,920
King so I've met Larry King a number of

1750
01:16:41,930 --> 01:16:38,219
times but yeah okay so where's the Larry

1751
01:16:43,850 --> 01:16:41,940
King or or any prom why can't one guy

1752
01:16:46,850 --> 01:16:43,860
stick his neck out right

1753
01:16:49,010 --> 01:16:46,860
now we do have Georgia Nori right we

1754
01:16:50,990 --> 01:16:49,020
have George Nori he's he's millions of

1755
01:16:52,430 --> 01:16:51,000
people listen to him I have lots of

1756
01:16:54,890 --> 01:16:52,440
people that listen to him

1757
01:16:56,990 --> 01:16:54,900
and I'm hoping maybe to get on his show

1758
01:17:00,649 --> 01:16:57,000
I would love to be on his show because I

1759
01:17:03,890 --> 01:17:00,659
admire what he's doing but why isn't he

1760
01:17:06,169 --> 01:17:03,900
the Walter Cronkite of ufology why isn't

1761
01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:06,179
he taking why doesn't the New York Times

1762
01:17:10,370 --> 01:17:08,640
report on on what George is telling us

1763
01:17:12,770 --> 01:17:10,380
every night right I I don't I can't

1764
01:17:15,229 --> 01:17:12,780
figure it out well yeah I'm the wrong

1765
01:17:17,689 --> 01:17:15,239
guy to ask that I know George too well

1766
01:17:20,450 --> 01:17:17,699
and I work for coast to coast for seven

1767
01:17:23,090 --> 01:17:20,460
years right I know that I know so I've

1768
01:17:25,669 --> 01:17:23,100
I've got my opinions there but but

1769
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:25,679
here's the other thing

1770
01:17:33,169 --> 01:17:30,480
um you're you have a PR firm so if you

1771
01:17:35,209 --> 01:17:33,179
have you've got your own book but let's

1772
01:17:39,169 --> 01:17:35,219
say

1773
01:17:41,630 --> 01:17:39,179
um you pick up somebody that uh is a is

1774
01:17:45,290 --> 01:17:41,640
a celebrity is an athlete is it known

1775
01:17:47,870 --> 01:17:45,300
right a known person uh that writes a

1776
01:17:50,209 --> 01:17:47,880
book about ET and contact maybe an

1777
01:17:53,510 --> 01:17:50,219
abduction experience

1778
01:17:56,570 --> 01:17:53,520
um how how does the media respond to you

1779
01:17:59,030 --> 01:17:56,580
as you get press releases out there

1780
01:18:00,770 --> 01:17:59,040
right I mean you're the person to ask

1781
01:18:03,050 --> 01:18:00,780
about this how would they respond to

1782
01:18:07,430 --> 01:18:03,060
that I'll I'll put I'll pull out a name

1783
01:18:09,410 --> 01:18:07,440
let's let's go big let's say I mean

1784
01:18:12,229 --> 01:18:09,420
let's go big I was gonna say Will Smith

1785
01:18:14,870 --> 01:18:12,239
but he would slap me if I no like let's

1786
01:18:18,890 --> 01:18:14,880
go let's go with Will Smith Will Smith

1787
01:18:21,649 --> 01:18:18,900
writes a book alien abduction right he

1788
01:18:24,130 --> 01:18:21,659
was abducted and he writes the book

1789
01:18:28,010 --> 01:18:24,140
does

1790
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:28,020
the pr uh campaign happen is it

1791
01:18:34,010 --> 01:18:30,239
effective is it effective because he's

1792
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:34,020
Will Smith or do they laugh about it

1793
01:18:38,510 --> 01:18:36,480
well because of the slap that's a tough

1794
01:18:40,610 --> 01:18:38,520
one that really is a tough one let's go

1795
01:18:43,130 --> 01:18:40,620
with Tom Hanks all right how about Tom

1796
01:18:45,610 --> 01:18:43,140
Hanks Tom Hanks is good Jerry Seinfeld

1797
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:45,620
right let's you know

1798
01:18:52,209 --> 01:18:50,640
I was abducted oh sure sure yeah Kramer

1799
01:18:55,490 --> 01:18:52,219
where's my coffee

1800
01:18:58,490 --> 01:18:55,500
Tom Hanks would be the one if Tom Hanks

1801
01:19:00,770 --> 01:18:58,500
wrote a book you know what world believe

1802
01:19:02,810 --> 01:19:00,780
it or not when I was eight I saw

1803
01:19:06,110 --> 01:19:02,820
something with my parents in the woods

1804
01:19:08,630 --> 01:19:06,120
we saw a little creature and and we saw

1805
01:19:11,510 --> 01:19:08,640
lights in the sky and and I have a

1806
01:19:13,490 --> 01:19:11,520
friend who was taken and he swears well

1807
01:19:16,250 --> 01:19:13,500
it would be the number one bestseller in

1808
01:19:18,950 --> 01:19:16,260
the world everyone would read it he

1809
01:19:22,850 --> 01:19:18,960
would be on every show he's a voice of

1810
01:19:27,590 --> 01:19:22,860
authority people admire and respect him

1811
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,890
you don't hear that

1812
01:19:30,900 --> 01:19:42,970
that's crazy man

1813
01:19:47,930 --> 01:19:46,189
especially you know what it sounds like

1814
01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:47,940
it sounds like

1815
01:19:52,490 --> 01:19:50,400
um the movie contact

1816
01:19:54,290 --> 01:19:52,500
when when the signal comes in and

1817
01:19:57,590 --> 01:19:54,300
they're recording it that's what it

1818
01:19:59,209 --> 01:19:57,600
sounds like wow yeah see I heard it I

1819
01:20:01,370 --> 01:19:59,219
heard it yep I heard it yeah that's

1820
01:20:04,189 --> 01:20:01,380
that's weird I don't know what that is

1821
01:20:07,310 --> 01:20:04,199
all right all right so if anyone

1822
01:20:08,330 --> 01:20:07,320
anyone who is admired and a trusted

1823
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:08,340
figure

1824
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:10,320
and I'm the publicist it's going to be

1825
01:20:13,370 --> 01:20:11,520
everywhere in the world it's going to be

1826
01:20:15,470 --> 01:20:13,380
everywhere in the world okay I just

1827
01:20:17,689 --> 01:20:15,480
wrote a book I've been pitching this

1828
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:17,699
book it came out March 1st it's been a

1829
01:20:25,010 --> 01:20:20,880
month I pitched the New York Times CNN

1830
01:20:28,430 --> 01:20:25,020
people USA Today AP Wall Street Journal

1831
01:20:32,810 --> 01:20:28,440
I'm a major publicist I know people in

1832
01:20:36,350 --> 01:20:32,820
in media Jimmy no one not one

1833
01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:36,360
not one major in a mainstream I'm going

1834
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:38,159
to say mainstream media not one person

1835
01:20:44,750 --> 01:20:41,040
even responded to me having said that

1836
01:20:47,630 --> 01:20:44,760
I'm blessed that you responded to me and

1837
01:20:51,110 --> 01:20:47,640
some other UFO podcasters around the

1838
01:20:53,270 --> 01:20:51,120
world Canada UK Australia I've been

1839
01:20:55,610 --> 01:20:53,280
doing a number of interviews I just was

1840
01:20:57,350 --> 01:20:55,620
on mufons podcast or I'll bet on move

1841
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:57,360
finds podcast with Richard Beckwith he

1842
01:21:02,149 --> 01:20:59,280
interviewed me the other day

1843
01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:02,159
I'm talking it's preaching to the choir

1844
01:21:07,130 --> 01:21:04,320
I'm talking to people

1845
01:21:09,470 --> 01:21:07,140
who have an interest in the subject who

1846
01:21:11,149 --> 01:21:09,480
have and again thank you very much who

1847
01:21:13,550 --> 01:21:11,159
have embraced me in my book and they're

1848
01:21:16,850 --> 01:21:13,560
giving me a platform I went to the LA

1849
01:21:18,290 --> 01:21:16,860
times I've been in La for 43 years I'm a

1850
01:21:21,770 --> 01:21:18,300
major Hollywood publicist I've

1851
01:21:25,189 --> 01:21:21,780
represented big stars and major Grammys

1852
01:21:27,169 --> 01:21:25,199
and Emmys and amazing the LA Times book

1853
01:21:29,930 --> 01:21:27,179
editor oh Dan good luck with your book

1854
01:21:31,430 --> 01:21:29,940
uh sorry uh we don't have room for your

1855
01:21:34,250 --> 01:21:31,440
book sorry

1856
01:21:36,709 --> 01:21:34,260
really you're gonna write a book about

1857
01:21:39,890 --> 01:21:36,719
some someone from Wisconsin you know no

1858
01:21:43,130 --> 01:21:39,900
one's ever heard of who who was not not

1859
01:21:44,689 --> 01:21:43,140
an interesting story I have a I like to

1860
01:21:47,390 --> 01:21:44,699
think this is I'm getting remarkably

1861
01:21:50,570 --> 01:21:47,400
good reviews on this book and they're

1862
01:21:52,189 --> 01:21:50,580
every single mainstream media every

1863
01:21:54,169 --> 01:21:52,199
single one that I've reached out to no

1864
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:54,179
response or they they just couldn't care

1865
01:22:00,350 --> 01:21:54,960
less

1866
01:22:01,970 --> 01:22:00,360
Bruce Springsteen or Barack Obama and

1867
01:22:03,229 --> 01:22:01,980
they say they were abducted when they

1868
01:22:06,590 --> 01:22:03,239
were seven

1869
01:22:08,450 --> 01:22:06,600
people like people like me and and the

1870
01:22:11,149 --> 01:22:08,460
people I met at aliencon and the people

1871
01:22:13,430 --> 01:22:11,159
I met the vendors at UFO con they have

1872
01:22:16,010 --> 01:22:13,440
books and things these are all wonderful

1873
01:22:18,350 --> 01:22:16,020
brilliant interesting people they have

1874
01:22:20,030 --> 01:22:18,360
fantastic stories we're not going to get

1875
01:22:22,189 --> 01:22:20,040
mainstream media it's just it just

1876
01:22:26,390 --> 01:22:22,199
doesn't happen and it's very frustrating

1877
01:22:28,970 --> 01:22:26,400
for me well when when Sammy Hagar did

1878
01:22:32,630 --> 01:22:28,980
his autobiography right and he's got

1879
01:22:35,870 --> 01:22:32,640
this uh mention in there of this

1880
01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:35,880
download this alien contact thing that

1881
01:22:40,370 --> 01:22:36,960
happened to him

1882
01:22:44,870 --> 01:22:40,380
and he's he's pretty detailed about it

1883
01:22:49,310 --> 01:22:44,880
and uh not to to to go real deep into

1884
01:22:51,290 --> 01:22:49,320
into that but he's in his bedroom this

1885
01:22:53,990 --> 01:22:51,300
umbilical cord comes through the ceiling

1886
01:22:57,470 --> 01:22:54,000
hits his head and he starts talking to

1887
01:23:01,070 --> 01:22:57,480
E.T okay Flying Saucer above his house

1888
01:23:03,410 --> 01:23:01,080
now he that's in his book

1889
01:23:05,630 --> 01:23:03,420
media didn't touch that

1890
01:23:08,990 --> 01:23:05,640
you would have thought man and you would

1891
01:23:11,209 --> 01:23:09,000
have thought right now Jimmy think about

1892
01:23:14,630 --> 01:23:11,219
this Sammy Hagar right wild and crazy

1893
01:23:17,450 --> 01:23:14,640
hair you know screaming with Van Halen

1894
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:17,460
loud you know he's known for his what

1895
01:23:24,550 --> 01:23:21,840
his his tequila brand right so no Sammy

1896
01:23:30,130 --> 01:23:24,560
was probably drunk on his

1897
01:23:30,140 --> 01:23:42,130
if it was Bruce Springsteen

1898
01:23:49,450 --> 01:23:45,709
Beyonce tomorrow said hey I saw UFO you

1899
01:23:52,970 --> 01:23:49,460
I'm 6 CCU the biggest story in the world

1900
01:23:56,570 --> 01:23:52,980
the the the the the messenger needs to

1901
01:23:58,189 --> 01:23:56,580
be a credible person Sammy Hagar I love

1902
01:23:59,810 --> 01:23:58,199
Van Halen I thought they were wonderful

1903
01:24:02,330 --> 01:23:59,820
he was great

1904
01:24:04,430 --> 01:24:02,340
Cabo Wabo man with the wacky with the

1905
01:24:06,590 --> 01:24:04,440
wacky tequila he probably ate the worm

1906
01:24:07,790 --> 01:24:06,600
right he ate the worm that's so if

1907
01:24:10,490 --> 01:24:07,800
you're mainstream media you're gonna

1908
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:10,500
believe Sammy Hagar saw a UFO no

1909
01:24:16,130 --> 01:24:14,880
does he still own that Cabo Wabo down in

1910
01:24:18,050 --> 01:24:16,140
Cabo

1911
01:24:20,510 --> 01:24:18,060
well you know what like what's his name

1912
01:24:22,550 --> 01:24:20,520
Ryan Reynolds today they start a brand

1913
01:24:23,930 --> 01:24:22,560
they sell it for a billion dollars and

1914
01:24:27,290 --> 01:24:23,940
then and then they lay up all the way to

1915
01:24:29,810 --> 01:24:27,300
the bank so I don't know Ryan Reynolds

1916
01:24:33,709 --> 01:24:29,820
all right let's Circle back to that

1917
01:24:36,050 --> 01:24:33,719
um I'm gonna be in Cabo uh next week and

1918
01:24:38,570 --> 01:24:36,060
I'm I'm gonna go man I'm gonna go to

1919
01:24:41,390 --> 01:24:38,580
Cabo Wabo I'm gonna walk in and say hey

1920
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:41,400
we're Savage we're Savage let me see if

1921
01:24:46,970 --> 01:24:44,400
Sammy's there he's there

1922
01:24:49,189 --> 01:24:46,980
all right I'm going to

1923
01:24:55,010 --> 01:24:49,199
um what did you

1924
01:24:57,649 --> 01:24:55,020
Reynolds okay I do I actually I'm I'm

1925
01:25:00,530 --> 01:24:57,659
gonna go on the record right now dude is

1926
01:25:04,130 --> 01:25:00,540
funny I love all his films all of them

1927
01:25:06,050 --> 01:25:04,140
even the bad ones and uh what was the

1928
01:25:08,630 --> 01:25:06,060
one where he lost all that weight

1929
01:25:10,910 --> 01:25:08,640
and uh right I love that red I know

1930
01:25:13,550 --> 01:25:10,920
exactly my daughter loves that movie too

1931
01:25:16,990 --> 01:25:13,560
that movie is great it got panned that

1932
01:25:25,370 --> 01:25:20,450
wonderful so I love Ryan Reynolds but

1933
01:25:26,630 --> 01:25:25,380
I'm wondering if acting is like a hobby

1934
01:25:32,930 --> 01:25:26,640
now

1935
01:25:39,709 --> 01:25:36,189
just got sold to what Sprint or Verizon

1936
01:25:45,130 --> 01:25:39,719
uh T-Mobile T-Mobile okay so there's a

1937
01:25:50,930 --> 01:25:48,830
Gin Company he sold that too yeah not

1938
01:25:53,209 --> 01:25:50,940
not to mention that he's married to

1939
01:25:55,070 --> 01:25:53,219
Blake Lively maybe the prettiest girl

1940
01:25:56,930 --> 01:25:55,080
who's ever lived on the earth in the

1941
01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:56,940
history of mankind you know the guy's

1942
01:26:01,010 --> 01:25:59,040
probably having a pretty good life you

1943
01:26:02,810 --> 01:26:01,020
would think Brian Reynolds is having a

1944
01:26:05,870 --> 01:26:02,820
pretty damn good life man

1945
01:26:07,629 --> 01:26:05,880
that movie was called Just Friends

1946
01:26:09,550 --> 01:26:07,639
I love that movie

1947
01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:09,560
Amy

1948
01:26:15,649 --> 01:26:13,440
Smart she's awesome she's awesome

1949
01:26:19,010 --> 01:26:15,659
um when he sings

1950
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:19,020
um in the trailer at the end he he puts

1951
01:26:31,250 --> 01:26:29,330
we're supposed to be talking about UFOs

1952
01:26:33,770 --> 01:26:31,260
and ET but I'll talk about Ryan Reynolds

1953
01:26:35,689 --> 01:26:33,780
any day you never remember Van Wilder

1954
01:26:37,790 --> 01:26:35,699
that was very funny that was a great

1955
01:26:39,470 --> 01:26:37,800
movie that was his first movie he was

1956
01:26:42,530 --> 01:26:39,480
funny that I thought he was the new

1957
01:26:45,410 --> 01:26:42,540
funnier Chevy Chase yeah he he's just

1958
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:45,420
he's got it but and he's Canadian that's

1959
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:47,760
the other crazy part so anyway yeah I

1960
01:26:51,910 --> 01:26:51,120
said it here's but here's the thing

1961
01:26:54,649 --> 01:26:51,920
um

1962
01:26:59,330 --> 01:26:54,659
uh with Ryan

1963
01:27:03,050 --> 01:26:59,340
when you do deals like this

1964
01:27:05,450 --> 01:27:03,060
and then you look at Hollywood

1965
01:27:07,370 --> 01:27:05,460
right and we're going to give you 50

1966
01:27:08,330 --> 01:27:07,380
million for your next picture that's not

1967
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:08,340
enough

1968
01:27:14,930 --> 01:27:10,560
you know you know what I mean because

1969
01:27:17,149 --> 01:27:14,940
now money is that I was with okay

1970
01:27:20,750 --> 01:27:17,159
I can't say who

1971
01:27:25,189 --> 01:27:20,760
I was with somebody from Silicon Valley

1972
01:27:28,270 --> 01:27:25,199
all right so think on that level

1973
01:27:32,570 --> 01:27:28,280
right and

1974
01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:32,580
we uh we were in Beverly Hills

1975
01:27:41,930 --> 01:27:37,520
he says to me and I'm not making this up

1976
01:27:47,870 --> 01:27:44,570
there's Hollywood money

1977
01:27:50,149 --> 01:27:47,880
and then there's me

1978
01:27:52,490 --> 01:27:50,159
this is nothing

1979
01:27:55,010 --> 01:27:52,500
and ever and I just sat back and I

1980
01:27:58,430 --> 01:27:55,020
thought about what he was saying

1981
01:28:01,729 --> 01:27:58,440
right and and so you know Hollywood you

1982
01:28:05,149 --> 01:28:01,739
know you have Fame right we don't know

1983
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:05,159
the names of these Silicon Valley Tech

1984
01:28:10,729 --> 01:28:07,920
billionaires we don't know their names

1985
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:10,739
um that own Islands in Fiji right we

1986
01:28:15,410 --> 01:28:12,480
don't know their names

1987
01:28:18,110 --> 01:28:15,420
Hollywood we know their names and when

1988
01:28:22,129 --> 01:28:18,120
he had said that to me

1989
01:28:26,209 --> 01:28:22,139
no Hollywood money is is not money it's

1990
01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:26,219
it's it's no no no no no I'm money and I

1991
01:28:32,930 --> 01:28:30,960
was like wow wow that's that's where

1992
01:28:34,729 --> 01:28:32,940
Ryan Reynolds is now

1993
01:28:37,490 --> 01:28:34,739
when I said that when you said that

1994
01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:37,500
story and for some reason I thought of

1995
01:28:45,590 --> 01:28:42,000
Joseph P Kennedy Joseph P Kennedy the

1996
01:28:49,250 --> 01:28:45,600
matriarch of the Kennedys made hundreds

1997
01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:49,260
of millions of dollars as a bootlegger

1998
01:28:53,810 --> 01:28:51,920
as a bootlegger

1999
01:28:56,689 --> 01:28:53,820
filthy rich

2000
01:28:59,750 --> 01:28:56,699
he bought in the I believe it was God

2001
01:29:02,149 --> 01:28:59,760
I'm gonna say the 30s he bought RKO

2002
01:29:05,570 --> 01:29:02,159
Studios in Hollywood you know why he

2003
01:29:08,270 --> 01:29:05,580
bought our KO Studios his mistress

2004
01:29:11,149 --> 01:29:08,280
was an actress and he bought a movie

2005
01:29:14,090 --> 01:29:11,159
studio so his mistress could get I think

2006
01:29:16,490 --> 01:29:14,100
not Swanson Gloria Swanson maybe it was

2007
01:29:18,530 --> 01:29:16,500
uh he bought a studio so his girlfriend

2008
01:29:21,169 --> 01:29:18,540
could get acting gigs and say come to

2009
01:29:23,450 --> 01:29:21,179
Hollywood and he could get laid but by

2010
01:29:26,209 --> 01:29:23,460
all the the starlets and then when JFK

2011
01:29:29,450 --> 01:29:26,219
was a young man he would go with his dad

2012
01:29:31,370 --> 01:29:29,460
and they'd go to RKO Studios and pick up

2013
01:29:34,610 --> 01:29:31,380
all the beautiful starlets and just have

2014
01:29:37,010 --> 01:29:34,620
unbelievable sex so he was so wealthy he

2015
01:29:40,430 --> 01:29:37,020
put on an entire movie studio so he and

2016
01:29:42,110 --> 01:29:40,440
his son could get laid so in in that in

2017
01:29:43,790 --> 01:29:42,120
that era would be comparable a little

2018
01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:43,800
bit to what you said about the Silicon

2019
01:29:50,890 --> 01:29:47,760
Valley View yeah yeah and I mean I I I

2020
01:29:55,850 --> 01:29:50,900
thought I thought about that Ryan

2021
01:30:01,850 --> 01:29:55,860
Reynolds situation a lot

2022
01:30:04,729 --> 01:30:01,860
and it's only because when you start to

2023
01:30:07,129 --> 01:30:04,739
um look you and I live here in Hollywood

2024
01:30:09,470 --> 01:30:07,139
we understand the film business we're

2025
01:30:11,450 --> 01:30:09,480
around actors in television and

2026
01:30:13,910 --> 01:30:11,460
commercials and we know the set

2027
01:30:15,590 --> 01:30:13,920
designers and the costume people and you

2028
01:30:18,290 --> 01:30:15,600
know and everything that supports the

2029
01:30:21,050 --> 01:30:18,300
movie industry everybody in Burbank

2030
01:30:25,270 --> 01:30:21,060
everybody in Burbank is is in the

2031
01:30:30,709 --> 01:30:28,070
that's it's just a way of life so when

2032
01:30:31,910 --> 01:30:30,719
when you hear these numbers thrown

2033
01:30:34,850 --> 01:30:31,920
around

2034
01:30:36,830 --> 01:30:34,860
um here in Los Angeles you know such and

2035
01:30:39,470 --> 01:30:36,840
such actor got 10 million dollars for

2036
01:30:41,570 --> 01:30:39,480
this film somebody just got fit 15.

2037
01:30:43,970 --> 01:30:41,580
somebody's just got 22 somebody gets

2038
01:30:46,729 --> 01:30:43,980
five somebody gets one

2039
01:30:48,830 --> 01:30:46,739
um million dollars okay all right those

2040
01:30:51,530 --> 01:30:48,840
are that's our barometer that's how we

2041
01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:51,540
measure things now if you go up to

2042
01:30:57,350 --> 01:30:53,040
Silicon Valley

2043
01:31:01,030 --> 01:30:57,360
does 20 million dollars move the needle

2044
01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:01,040
in a conversation no

2045
01:31:07,970 --> 01:31:05,040
what that's the first round of funding

2046
01:31:11,390 --> 01:31:07,980
for a startup in a garage right right

2047
01:31:13,790 --> 01:31:11,400
that's the truth it's the truth you know

2048
01:31:15,229 --> 01:31:13,800
and and it's it's a it's a totally

2049
01:31:19,250 --> 01:31:15,239
different thing so you look at Ryan

2050
01:31:22,010 --> 01:31:19,260
Reynolds suddenly you know uh you know a

2051
01:31:23,750 --> 01:31:22,020
cellular company right a cell phone

2052
01:31:26,209 --> 01:31:23,760
company a what

2053
01:31:30,229 --> 01:31:26,219
right that's that's what you know mint

2054
01:31:34,189 --> 01:31:30,239
mobile and and and the Gin Company and

2055
01:31:39,290 --> 01:31:34,199
and the the money that is transacted in

2056
01:31:41,689 --> 01:31:39,300
that and so is Ryan looking back going

2057
01:31:43,129 --> 01:31:41,699
am I gonna do another movie for 25

2058
01:31:45,229 --> 01:31:43,139
million

2059
01:31:47,629 --> 01:31:45,239
well I think I think at that point first

2060
01:31:49,970 --> 01:31:47,639
of all he's got the most remarkable

2061
01:31:51,890 --> 01:31:49,980
financial advisors who ever lived I mean

2062
01:31:53,149 --> 01:31:51,900
he put mint Mobile on the map from

2063
01:31:56,030 --> 01:31:53,159
nothing

2064
01:31:59,450 --> 01:31:56,040
right he's a young good-looking guy he

2065
01:32:01,010 --> 01:31:59,460
he he he's funny he's talented he lucked

2066
01:32:02,209 --> 01:32:01,020
into Deadpool you know he did a lot of

2067
01:32:03,709 --> 01:32:02,219
movies that did not like you said

2068
01:32:06,370 --> 01:32:03,719
earlier that didn't do very well Green

2069
01:32:10,250 --> 01:32:06,380
Lantern he still regrets very much

2070
01:32:13,129 --> 01:32:10,260
Lantern is great I love that movie like

2071
01:32:16,129 --> 01:32:14,330
I remember this

2072
01:32:18,590 --> 01:32:16,139
Jim Carrey was the first actor in

2073
01:32:20,870 --> 01:32:18,600
Hollywood to get 20 million that's right

2074
01:32:22,370 --> 01:32:20,880
the Cable Guy which was like a really

2075
01:32:25,129 --> 01:32:22,380
really bad movie

2076
01:32:28,010 --> 01:32:25,139
and he was the first one to break that I

2077
01:32:29,810 --> 01:32:28,020
believe I believe Tom Cruise I I think I

2078
01:32:32,870 --> 01:32:29,820
read somewhere he got close to a billion

2079
01:32:35,629 --> 01:32:32,880
for uh Top Gun the new Top Gun because

2080
01:32:37,370 --> 01:32:35,639
she had such a huge back-end piece it

2081
01:32:39,950 --> 01:32:37,380
made two million globally I think he got

2082
01:32:41,689 --> 01:32:39,960
close to ability but someone like Ryan

2083
01:32:43,850 --> 01:32:41,699
Reynolds probably now he's probably like

2084
01:32:46,129 --> 01:32:43,860
oh 20 30 40. okay we'll put it in the

2085
01:32:47,450 --> 01:32:46,139
grandkids trust fund you know just he

2086
01:32:48,290 --> 01:32:47,460
probably acts just for the fun of it

2087
01:32:50,689 --> 01:32:48,300
he's

2088
01:32:53,629 --> 01:32:50,699
I mean I I think it's a hobby now I

2089
01:32:55,629 --> 01:32:53,639
think it's a hobby right it's it's not

2090
01:32:58,910 --> 01:32:55,639
Front Burner stuff

2091
01:33:02,270 --> 01:32:58,920
he's not going to go and read for a part

2092
01:33:05,870 --> 01:33:02,280
you know is she gonna go is he gonna go

2093
01:33:11,410 --> 01:33:05,880
study a script somewhere and maybe think

2094
01:33:15,830 --> 01:33:14,390
Ryan Reynolds how many thousands of one

2095
01:33:18,410 --> 01:33:15,840
of these really I mean there are

2096
01:33:20,689 --> 01:33:18,420
talented I've done PR for a lot of plays

2097
01:33:22,729 --> 01:33:20,699
the stage plays over the years

2098
01:33:25,189 --> 01:33:22,739
and I've seen a lot of talented young

2099
01:33:27,110 --> 01:33:25,199
people on on theater stages they can

2100
01:33:30,530 --> 01:33:27,120
sing they can act they can make you cry

2101
01:33:32,390 --> 01:33:30,540
they can make you laugh 99 of them you

2102
01:33:34,010 --> 01:33:32,400
never heard from them ever again the one

2103
01:33:36,290 --> 01:33:34,020
exception was

2104
01:33:38,110 --> 01:33:36,300
there's a woman named Katrina lenk

2105
01:33:42,530 --> 01:33:38,120
l-a-n-k

2106
01:33:44,629 --> 01:33:42,540
in the early 2000s mid-2000s she was in

2107
01:33:47,030 --> 01:33:44,639
a play out here called Lovelace it was

2108
01:33:49,729 --> 01:33:47,040
about uh Linda Lovelace it was written

2109
01:33:52,129 --> 01:33:49,739
by Charlotte Caffey from the Go-Go's

2110
01:33:53,629 --> 01:33:52,139
yeah I know Charlotte sure Charlotte I

2111
01:33:56,810 --> 01:33:53,639
spent time with Charlotte by the sweet

2112
01:33:59,030 --> 01:33:56,820
lady Charlotte is so cool very cool she

2113
01:34:01,790 --> 01:33:59,040
wrote a play based on Linda lovelace's

2114
01:34:04,129 --> 01:34:01,800
book ordeal Linda Lovelace had a

2115
01:34:05,930 --> 01:34:04,139
horrible horrible life if you ever want

2116
01:34:08,450 --> 01:34:05,940
to know she's famous of course from deep

2117
01:34:10,970 --> 01:34:08,460
throat but her real life was horrible

2118
01:34:12,649 --> 01:34:10,980
her husband tortured her and beat the

2119
01:34:15,410 --> 01:34:12,659
hell out of her for years and years

2120
01:34:18,649 --> 01:34:15,420
anyway his play was called Lovelace and

2121
01:34:20,629 --> 01:34:18,659
Katrina lenk was the star she played

2122
01:34:23,689 --> 01:34:20,639
love lights I was the publicist this is

2123
01:34:25,970 --> 01:34:23,699
like those 607. and the first time Jimmy

2124
01:34:27,950 --> 01:34:25,980
I heard this woman sing a song everyone

2125
01:34:30,590 --> 01:34:27,960
in the theater we all had chills I was

2126
01:34:32,689 --> 01:34:30,600
crying I'm like this is like a

2127
01:34:35,629 --> 01:34:32,699
revelation and afterwards I said Katrina

2128
01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:35,639
you are gifted you are a gifted person

2129
01:34:39,290 --> 01:34:37,440
uh

2130
01:34:41,570 --> 01:34:39,300
you know what's your story she goes well

2131
01:34:44,270 --> 01:34:41,580
I'm a waitress I'm a waitress at House

2132
01:34:45,350 --> 01:34:44,280
of Pies you're a waitress at House of

2133
01:34:47,570 --> 01:34:45,360
Pies

2134
01:34:49,310 --> 01:34:47,580
Jimmy she was like the new Barbara

2135
01:34:50,689 --> 01:34:49,320
strike you know what I mean how

2136
01:34:53,870 --> 01:34:50,699
surprised which one the one on

2137
01:34:56,209 --> 01:34:53,880
Lankershim probably so I said to her I

2138
01:34:58,310 --> 01:34:56,219
said Katrina you I I swear to you I said

2139
01:35:00,890 --> 01:34:58,320
you are going to be a star

2140
01:35:04,550 --> 01:35:00,900
years later she won the Tony for best

2141
01:35:06,410 --> 01:35:04,560
actress for uh the band's visit of

2142
01:35:07,490 --> 01:35:06,420
Broadway the band is that she won best

2143
01:35:10,010 --> 01:35:07,500
actress

2144
01:35:11,629 --> 01:35:10,020
so you know I guess what I'm pointing is

2145
01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:11,639
for every Ryan Reynolds there's a

2146
01:35:17,330 --> 01:35:14,400
hundred thousand people who have talent

2147
01:35:19,310 --> 01:35:17,340
and they just don't quite remember okay

2148
01:35:20,990 --> 01:35:19,320
Close Encounters is my favorite movie of

2149
01:35:24,250 --> 01:35:21,000
all time so let's get back to aliens

2150
01:35:28,669 --> 01:35:24,260
well I've seen it 50 60 times at least

2151
01:35:30,590 --> 01:35:28,679
I watched it last week I watch it at

2152
01:35:32,689 --> 01:35:30,600
least once or twice a year I love it

2153
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:32,699
with all my heart I do it once a month

2154
01:35:38,090 --> 01:35:35,760
once a month I watch it and Francois

2155
01:35:41,990 --> 01:35:38,100
truffaut at some point

2156
01:35:45,050 --> 01:35:42,000
says of Richard Dreyfus he was invited

2157
01:35:47,149 --> 01:35:45,060
you know think of all the adversity that

2158
01:35:49,189 --> 01:35:47,159
he went through with the car you know

2159
01:35:51,470 --> 01:35:49,199
and his losing his mind and he got the

2160
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:51,480
sunburn on his face and he's almost

2161
01:35:56,510 --> 01:35:53,280
getting arrested the military is putting

2162
01:35:58,430 --> 01:35:56,520
the gas and and he nothing stopped this

2163
01:35:59,629 --> 01:35:58,440
guy nothing stopped Richard Dreyfus from

2164
01:36:02,090 --> 01:35:59,639
getting climbing that top of that

2165
01:36:03,530 --> 01:36:02,100
mountain he had to stay that UFO at the

2166
01:36:05,930 --> 01:36:03,540
NBA

2167
01:36:08,510 --> 01:36:05,940
you know there's very few people I guess

2168
01:36:11,229 --> 01:36:08,520
my parallel is there's very few people

2169
01:36:14,570 --> 01:36:11,239
in Hollywood that are that committed

2170
01:36:16,250 --> 01:36:14,580
that you know that they're going to get

2171
01:36:19,370 --> 01:36:16,260
to the peak they're going to become a

2172
01:36:22,030 --> 01:36:19,380
Tom Hanks or a Brad Pitt or a Ryan Odell

2173
01:36:25,990 --> 01:36:22,040
there's one one out of a million people

2174
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:26,000
are you hip to um

2175
01:36:31,790 --> 01:36:28,800
Laney Gardner

2176
01:36:34,850 --> 01:36:31,800
that name ring a bell I knew lady Kazan

2177
01:36:36,410 --> 01:36:34,860
but no I don't know lady Gardener oh you

2178
01:36:41,689 --> 01:36:36,420
know who she is

2179
01:36:45,350 --> 01:36:41,699
Laney Gardner is the singer

2180
01:36:48,830 --> 01:36:45,360
that she's probably got 500 million

2181
01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:48,840
views on YouTube she does a a cover of

2182
01:36:53,750 --> 01:36:51,600
Fleetwood Mac's dreams

2183
01:36:56,090 --> 01:36:53,760
you've seen her sing the video you've

2184
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:56,100
seen it it's all over the place and

2185
01:37:00,950 --> 01:36:58,320
she's incredible I don't know how old

2186
01:37:05,689 --> 01:37:00,960
she is but she's you know in her early

2187
01:37:07,450 --> 01:37:05,699
20s and and she does this video she's

2188
01:37:11,390 --> 01:37:07,460
just sitting in front of a microphone

2189
01:37:13,669 --> 01:37:11,400
singing uh Dreams Fleetwood Mac and it's

2190
01:37:15,890 --> 01:37:13,679
it's it's better than the Fleetwood Mac

2191
01:37:18,649 --> 01:37:15,900
version right Stevie Nicks it's just

2192
01:37:20,810 --> 01:37:18,659
incredible how great of a singer she is

2193
01:37:23,149 --> 01:37:20,820
but she does this simple video she's

2194
01:37:26,030 --> 01:37:23,159
probably she looks like she's sitting on

2195
01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:26,040
on the floor in her living room or her

2196
01:37:32,750 --> 01:37:29,760
bedroom I think she lives in Tennessee

2197
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:32,760
but the point is this video it's great

2198
01:37:40,070 --> 01:37:36,239
this video poof

2199
01:37:44,330 --> 01:37:40,080
right I'm talking poof

2200
01:37:47,870 --> 01:37:44,340
and there's different versions of it and

2201
01:37:51,709 --> 01:37:47,880
um uh it is it's played all over it's

2202
01:37:52,910 --> 01:37:51,719
it's just and so here is somebody that

2203
01:37:56,750 --> 01:37:52,920
is just

2204
01:37:59,350 --> 01:37:56,760
you know just a singer you know in in

2205
01:38:03,350 --> 01:37:59,360
Tennessee somewhere she makes this video

2206
01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:03,360
and then shot out of a Canon

2207
01:38:08,990 --> 01:38:07,199
so I'm I'm very I'm very curious he's

2208
01:38:11,209 --> 01:38:09,000
finally made a second video she's very

2209
01:38:14,870 --> 01:38:11,219
talented and

2210
01:38:18,590 --> 01:38:14,880
um I'm just wondering if if she is going

2211
01:38:20,209 --> 01:38:18,600
to be the next Beyonce she's like that

2212
01:38:23,570 --> 01:38:20,219
good

2213
01:38:25,310 --> 01:38:23,580
um and uh she is yeah everybody is is

2214
01:38:28,689 --> 01:38:25,320
commenting on it now everybody's seen

2215
01:38:31,070 --> 01:38:28,699
this video Laney Gardner

2216
01:38:34,430 --> 01:38:31,080
I'll have to I worked with Fleetwood Mac

2217
01:38:36,890 --> 01:38:34,440
in 1973 before

2218
01:38:40,669 --> 01:38:36,900
Stevie Nicks and uh Lindsey Buckingham

2219
01:38:41,649 --> 01:38:40,679
joined the band it was um Bob who killed

2220
01:38:44,590 --> 01:38:41,659
himself

2221
01:38:48,050 --> 01:38:44,600
Bob Waltz

2222
01:38:50,450 --> 01:38:48,060
did you see I love talking music

2223
01:38:52,910 --> 01:38:50,460
um we'll try to get some more UFOs in

2224
01:38:55,610 --> 01:38:52,920
before the end of the show did you see

2225
01:38:58,430 --> 01:38:55,620
um uh Daisy Jones and the six

2226
01:39:04,209 --> 01:38:58,440
I read about it Riley Keough you know

2227
01:39:10,550 --> 01:39:06,229
I didn't

2228
01:39:12,050 --> 01:39:10,560
um the uh uh okay hold on one of the

2229
01:39:13,790 --> 01:39:12,060
world's greatest guitar players just

2230
01:39:15,350 --> 01:39:13,800
texted me let's see what he's saying

2231
01:39:19,490 --> 01:39:15,360
here

2232
01:39:21,830 --> 01:39:19,500
oh okay he just says he misses me

2233
01:39:24,229 --> 01:39:21,840
I was like I'm listening to the show man

2234
01:39:25,550 --> 01:39:24,239
this is great now is it the one you

2235
01:39:28,910 --> 01:39:25,560
could is it someone you could tell it to

2236
01:39:32,689 --> 01:39:28,920
it was it's a Jordan ziff uh Jordan ziff

2237
01:39:34,070 --> 01:39:32,699
and uh he's amazing he he he's been a

2238
01:39:35,510 --> 01:39:34,080
guest on the show

2239
01:39:38,030 --> 01:39:35,520
um you know one of the great guitar

2240
01:39:40,910 --> 01:39:38,040
players on planet Earth and he's got so

2241
01:39:45,410 --> 01:39:40,920
much respect uh from you know the the

2242
01:39:50,810 --> 01:39:45,420
music world and and he's great he's all

2243
01:39:54,530 --> 01:39:50,820
about UFOs man he knows his stuff he is

2244
01:39:57,350 --> 01:39:54,540
educated he reads and uh I mean he

2245
01:39:59,209 --> 01:39:57,360
blazes on the guitar he's just amazing I

2246
01:40:00,709 --> 01:39:59,219
just sit and watch him play and just I

2247
01:40:03,830 --> 01:40:00,719
just laugh you know he's just so

2248
01:40:06,530 --> 01:40:03,840
talented but but I want to talk guitar

2249
01:40:08,450 --> 01:40:06,540
he wants to talk UFOs that's it that's

2250
01:40:11,330 --> 01:40:08,460
that's our relationship

2251
01:40:15,530 --> 01:40:11,340
um but anyway Riley Keough

2252
01:40:19,550 --> 01:40:15,540
so Elvis's granddaughter and and the

2253
01:40:21,410 --> 01:40:19,560
show itself is uh you know it's about

2254
01:40:24,530 --> 01:40:21,420
Fleetwood Mac you know it's got this

2255
01:40:28,610 --> 01:40:24,540
thing you know this this underlying

2256
01:40:31,790 --> 01:40:28,620
Fleetwood Mac tone right okay so that's

2257
01:40:33,770 --> 01:40:31,800
that's certainly there that's that and

2258
01:40:37,250 --> 01:40:33,780
and the screenwriting is great the story

2259
01:40:41,810 --> 01:40:37,260
is great all that it's Riley man

2260
01:40:44,030 --> 01:40:41,820
she is an amazing singer and then you

2261
01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:44,040
you're listening to her and you're

2262
01:40:50,270 --> 01:40:48,000
watching and all you see is Elvis

2263
01:40:52,010 --> 01:40:50,280
she's got the eyes she's got the faint

2264
01:40:53,450 --> 01:40:52,020
you know and she's got this amazing

2265
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:53,460
voice

2266
01:40:57,110 --> 01:40:55,440
um she is absolutely incredible that's a

2267
01:40:58,250 --> 01:40:57,120
it's a really good TV show I highly

2268
01:41:00,290 --> 01:40:58,260
recommend it

2269
01:41:02,149 --> 01:41:00,300
did you ever hear me did you ever hear I

2270
01:41:04,970 --> 01:41:02,159
never did you ever hear Lisa Marie

2271
01:41:07,629 --> 01:41:04,980
Presley's music I never did I wonder how

2272
01:41:10,370 --> 01:41:07,639
talented was she

2273
01:41:12,770 --> 01:41:10,380
marginal marginal problem no no no no no

2274
01:41:16,430 --> 01:41:12,780
no no no no she had the gene

2275
01:41:18,950 --> 01:41:16,440
okay she had the gene I don't think this

2276
01:41:21,229 --> 01:41:18,960
is just my take I just don't think

2277
01:41:23,390 --> 01:41:21,239
that's what she wanted to do

2278
01:41:27,590 --> 01:41:23,400
you know Riley

2279
01:41:30,290 --> 01:41:27,600
Riley is a singer right she is a singer

2280
01:41:33,169 --> 01:41:30,300
she's incredible

2281
01:41:34,910 --> 01:41:33,179
um the fact that she's Elvis's

2282
01:41:38,689 --> 01:41:34,920
granddaughter

2283
01:41:41,689 --> 01:41:38,699
um you you find that out later

2284
01:41:44,090 --> 01:41:41,699
right you don't nothing there's an

2285
01:41:45,770 --> 01:41:44,100
eclipse who she is no no no not at all

2286
01:41:49,070 --> 01:41:45,780
because if you just listen to her music

2287
01:41:51,649 --> 01:41:49,080
or you saw her on screen and you know I

2288
01:41:54,950 --> 01:41:51,659
I have known about her for a while so I

2289
01:41:56,629 --> 01:41:54,960
was very curious about this show but

2290
01:41:58,490 --> 01:41:56,639
um but if you didn't know any of that

2291
01:42:00,109 --> 01:41:58,500
about her background or anything you

2292
01:42:02,810 --> 01:42:00,119
just thinks she's a great singer she's

2293
01:42:06,470 --> 01:42:02,820
amazing and she's she's gonna that's

2294
01:42:08,270 --> 01:42:06,480
what she is she is God that she got Fame

2295
01:42:10,370 --> 01:42:08,280
concurrent with her mother her mother

2296
01:42:12,410 --> 01:42:10,380
dies and her movie comes out and she's

2297
01:42:15,229 --> 01:42:12,420
getting great reviews you know it's it's

2298
01:42:16,490 --> 01:42:15,239
the circle of life right I mean who

2299
01:42:18,290 --> 01:42:16,500
would have thought Elvis's daughter

2300
01:42:23,209 --> 01:42:18,300
would die young

2301
01:42:25,970 --> 01:42:23,219
that's just sad yeah the um uh uh there

2302
01:42:27,950 --> 01:42:25,980
is also all right let's let's stay right

2303
01:42:30,830 --> 01:42:27,960
here because now we can talk about drugs

2304
01:42:33,290 --> 01:42:30,840
and UFOs and music and Elvis all at the

2305
01:42:34,010 --> 01:42:33,300
same time there's a new cartoon out a

2306
01:42:38,030 --> 01:42:34,020
new

2307
01:42:41,450 --> 01:42:38,040
um animated adult series

2308
01:42:44,030 --> 01:42:41,460
um it's called a secret agent Elvis

2309
01:42:46,370 --> 01:42:44,040
oh yeah okay yeah you haven't checked

2310
01:42:48,109 --> 01:42:46,380
that out yet no that sounds good I think

2311
01:42:51,410 --> 01:42:48,119
my daughter would love that right okay

2312
01:42:53,209 --> 01:42:51,420
so first off Matthew McConaughey plays

2313
01:42:56,390 --> 01:42:53,219
Elvis okay

2314
01:42:59,870 --> 01:42:56,400
and now before you

2315
01:43:02,629 --> 01:42:59,880
or anybody listening to me right now it

2316
01:43:05,330 --> 01:43:02,639
just draws a conclusion on that stop

2317
01:43:08,570 --> 01:43:05,340
right there he plays a great Elvis he

2318
01:43:12,470 --> 01:43:08,580
doesn't talk like Elvis he's McConaughey

2319
01:43:17,530 --> 01:43:12,480
with his Texas draw but it works right

2320
01:43:19,330 --> 01:43:17,540
okay now it's created by are you ready

2321
01:43:26,270 --> 01:43:19,340
Priscilla

2322
01:43:28,550 --> 01:43:26,280
um it's it's all the sex drugs and rock

2323
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:28,560
and roll that you can handle of the

2324
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:30,960
adult variety this isn't for kids funny

2325
01:43:40,689 --> 01:43:34,560
ha ha this is some pretty gnarly stuff

2326
01:43:49,129 --> 01:43:43,430
adult potty mouths you've never heard so

2327
01:43:51,830 --> 01:43:49,139
many f-bombs in 60 seconds in your life

2328
01:43:54,530 --> 01:43:51,840
is it a streaming show yeah I think it's

2329
01:43:56,270 --> 01:43:54,540
uh it's either Amazon or Netflix it's

2330
01:43:59,629 --> 01:43:56,280
one of the two big ones

2331
01:44:03,250 --> 01:43:59,639
I'll check that out yo it's it's I so

2332
01:44:07,550 --> 01:44:03,260
when when uh it it popped up last week

2333
01:44:10,189 --> 01:44:07,560
and and I was working it was like on a

2334
01:44:14,030 --> 01:44:10,199
weeknight I'm working and it's after the

2335
01:44:17,689 --> 01:44:14,040
show and so anyway

2336
01:44:19,729 --> 01:44:17,699
I'm uh surfing and it pops up it's right

2337
01:44:21,790 --> 01:44:19,739
there new release I went out secret

2338
01:44:25,550 --> 01:44:21,800
agent Elvis

2339
01:44:26,990 --> 01:44:25,560
clicked on it and I was I I do do I do

2340
01:44:30,169 --> 01:44:27,000
this right

2341
01:44:31,010 --> 01:44:30,179
and uh and I went okay I'll give it a

2342
01:44:33,410 --> 01:44:31,020
shot

2343
01:44:37,609 --> 01:44:33,420
I think that each episode's 25 minutes

2344
01:44:40,669 --> 01:44:37,619
man I banged out I went to bed at 4am I

2345
01:44:43,430 --> 01:44:40,679
watched the whole season man I was like

2346
01:44:46,010 --> 01:44:43,440
I gotta be up in two hours oh I can't

2347
01:44:51,530 --> 01:44:46,020
believe I did I couldn't stop I couldn't

2348
01:44:56,270 --> 01:44:53,209
um in in

2349
01:45:03,770 --> 01:45:01,250
um I'm going to say there were rumors

2350
01:45:06,950 --> 01:45:03,780
um that I have read about uh over the

2351
01:45:10,729 --> 01:45:06,960
years that he had a couple of sightings

2352
01:45:12,830 --> 01:45:10,739
um when I was at aliencon a gentleman

2353
01:45:15,649 --> 01:45:12,840
came to me and said

2354
01:45:17,450 --> 01:45:15,659
I I had my monkeys sweatshirt on and

2355
01:45:19,430 --> 01:45:17,460
which gets I could have sold more monkey

2356
01:45:21,830 --> 01:45:19,440
sweatshirts at alien con than my book

2357
01:45:23,629 --> 01:45:21,840
quite frankly but he goes hey you're in

2358
01:45:26,629 --> 01:45:23,639
Tarak yeah he goes you know that John

2359
01:45:29,530 --> 01:45:26,639
Lennon John Lennon saw UFO in Manhattan

2360
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:29,540
yep in the 70s through his window

2361
01:45:33,470 --> 01:45:31,920
apparently it was hovering through his

2362
01:45:35,810 --> 01:45:33,480
window you've heard that story as well

2363
01:45:40,550 --> 01:45:35,820
he was on the rooftop of his apartment

2364
01:45:44,510 --> 01:45:40,560
building wow really and uh and he tells

2365
01:45:46,310 --> 01:45:44,520
I've heard uh he he tells

2366
01:45:49,790 --> 01:45:46,320
he talks about this in a few different

2367
01:45:53,450 --> 01:45:49,800
interviews not just one and uh it's it's

2368
01:45:55,070 --> 01:45:53,460
pretty amazing he's manly and so this

2369
01:45:56,990 --> 01:45:55,080
one interview he's standing on top he's

2370
01:45:58,970 --> 01:45:57,000
like I was standing right here it was

2371
01:46:01,970 --> 01:45:58,980
right over there in the sky it was a

2372
01:46:06,290 --> 01:46:01,980
flying saucer with white yeah he's

2373
01:46:11,149 --> 01:46:06,300
he's straight up he's straight up and he

2374
01:46:14,870 --> 01:46:11,159
what what was really great about that is

2375
01:46:18,229 --> 01:46:14,880
I think that John and and others like

2376
01:46:20,750 --> 01:46:18,239
him right where there's a trust that we

2377
01:46:24,890 --> 01:46:20,760
always had in him right we trusted him

2378
01:46:26,750 --> 01:46:24,900
we liked John he felt like our friend

2379
01:46:29,149 --> 01:46:26,760
um and at one point you know the biggest

2380
01:46:32,030 --> 01:46:29,159
star in the world right who was bigger

2381
01:46:35,149 --> 01:46:32,040
Beatles or Elvis well I don't know

2382
01:46:36,770 --> 01:46:35,159
that's how big John Lennon depends on

2383
01:46:40,189 --> 01:46:36,780
your decade of childhood

2384
01:46:43,149 --> 01:46:40,199
but uh I don't I don't know I don't know

2385
01:46:45,410 --> 01:46:43,159
I don't I I I I I call a tie

2386
01:46:47,990 --> 01:46:45,420
I would say the Beatles were more

2387
01:46:48,970 --> 01:46:48,000
influential worldwide think about it

2388
01:46:54,530 --> 01:46:48,980
clothing

2389
01:46:57,890 --> 01:46:54,540
hairstyles pot LSD posters Elvis

2390
01:46:59,689 --> 01:46:57,900
I don't think Elvis Elvis influenced

2391
01:47:02,470 --> 01:46:59,699
other musicians everything John Lennon

2392
01:47:05,270 --> 01:47:02,480
and Paul McCartney wanted to be Elvis

2393
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:05,280
he you know of course the sweets the

2394
01:47:10,070 --> 01:47:06,960
girls screaming and all that but the

2395
01:47:12,350 --> 01:47:10,080
Beatles redefined culture on a global

2396
01:47:14,570 --> 01:47:12,360
scale I can't think of anyone else that

2397
01:47:16,189 --> 01:47:14,580
ever did that before or since then

2398
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:16,199
but I thought that was cool that John

2399
01:47:21,109 --> 01:47:19,440
Lennon had seen a UFO yeah if he had

2400
01:47:25,010 --> 01:47:21,119
kept God for willing if he was alive

2401
01:47:26,750 --> 01:47:25,020
today and said I saw UFO he'd be he'd be

2402
01:47:30,830 --> 01:47:26,760
a credible Source right I think he would

2403
01:47:34,370 --> 01:47:30,840
be incredible yeah for sure for sure but

2404
01:47:38,229 --> 01:47:34,380
I'm going to debate you on on uh Elvin

2405
01:47:41,109 --> 01:47:38,239
Elvis and Beatles I would say

2406
01:47:44,629 --> 01:47:41,119
I would say

2407
01:47:46,729 --> 01:47:44,639
you're more correct than you think in

2408
01:47:51,490 --> 01:47:46,739
that it depends on the decade

2409
01:47:54,729 --> 01:47:51,500
because if uh if you look at Elvis from

2410
01:47:57,649 --> 01:47:54,739
55 to

2411
01:48:00,070 --> 01:47:57,659
65 64.

2412
01:48:02,750 --> 01:48:00,080
I don't think there was anything bigger

2413
01:48:07,970 --> 01:48:02,760
beetlemania as it you know started

2414
01:48:12,350 --> 01:48:07,980
started to take over 62 63 64. yes and

2415
01:48:14,209 --> 01:48:12,360
Elvis's uh era was was winding down he

2416
01:48:19,310 --> 01:48:14,219
was making movies and then and went over

2417
01:48:23,090 --> 01:48:19,320
to Las Vegas and stuff but in in 1955 56

2418
01:48:25,609 --> 01:48:23,100
57 58 I would say that he was the most

2419
01:48:28,070 --> 01:48:25,619
famous person in the known universe at

2420
01:48:31,370 --> 01:48:28,080
that at that point yeah I don't I don't

2421
01:48:34,250 --> 01:48:31,380
yeah so no I don't disagree with that at

2422
01:48:37,729 --> 01:48:34,260
all my point was

2423
01:48:39,470 --> 01:48:37,739
who was more influential globally The

2424
01:48:42,410 --> 01:48:39,480
Beatles The Beatles were more

2425
01:48:44,890 --> 01:48:42,420
influential globally Elvis I'm sure sold

2426
01:48:47,450 --> 01:48:44,900
a lot of Records around the world sold

2427
01:48:51,109 --> 01:48:47,460
the most he sold the most records of

2428
01:48:52,850 --> 01:48:51,119
anybody in history 500 million albums

2429
01:48:53,930 --> 01:48:52,860
that's a lot of that's a lot that's a

2430
01:48:56,450 --> 01:48:53,940
lot of uh

2431
01:48:59,149 --> 01:48:56,460
that's a lot of albums we know how many

2432
01:49:04,189 --> 01:48:59,159
The Beatles sold in total I could look

2433
01:49:05,530 --> 01:49:04,199
it up I I looked up uh last week

2434
01:49:08,930 --> 01:49:05,540
um let's see

2435
01:49:10,330 --> 01:49:08,940
how many albums

2436
01:49:13,070 --> 01:49:10,340
[Music]

2437
01:49:16,490 --> 01:49:13,080
before they separated into their four

2438
01:49:22,490 --> 01:49:20,330
but I think culturally hair style 100

2439
01:49:25,790 --> 01:49:22,500
okay

2440
01:49:28,810 --> 01:49:25,800
um United States 177 million it says

2441
01:49:32,149 --> 01:49:28,820
worldwide album sales top

2442
01:49:36,729 --> 01:49:32,159
600 million

2443
01:49:40,270 --> 01:49:36,739
okay now let's go with uh

2444
01:49:43,669 --> 01:49:40,280
Elvis and The Beatles are comparable man

2445
01:49:45,709 --> 01:49:43,679
who is funnier pastel hey you ready you

2446
01:49:48,590 --> 01:49:45,719
ready you ready

2447
01:49:51,310 --> 01:49:48,600
how many albums did Elvis sell

2448
01:49:54,649 --> 01:49:51,320
more than 500

2449
01:50:01,129 --> 01:49:54,659
one billion

2450
01:50:03,530 --> 01:50:01,139
that's crazy I'm looking right here yeah

2451
01:50:05,930 --> 01:50:03,540
okay how about this how about this Elvis

2452
01:50:09,790 --> 01:50:05,940
was more famous the Beatles were more

2453
01:50:15,169 --> 01:50:12,830
I might have to give you that I mean but

2454
01:50:17,330 --> 01:50:15,179
that's like saying who would win in a

2455
01:50:17,980 --> 01:50:17,340
fight a cheeseburger or a grilled cheese

2456
01:50:21,410 --> 01:50:17,990
sandwich

2457
01:50:26,870 --> 01:50:24,410
argue that I mean we're talking about

2458
01:50:30,290 --> 01:50:26,880
the biggest of the big right right and

2459
01:50:33,050 --> 01:50:30,300
and different areas Italian Frazier I

2460
01:50:34,490 --> 01:50:33,060
remember the Ali Frazier fight we

2461
01:50:36,050 --> 01:50:34,500
couldn't we listened to it on the radio

2462
01:50:38,510 --> 01:50:36,060
you couldn't wait to hear it the next

2463
01:50:40,430 --> 01:50:38,520
day the one because they were two of the

2464
01:50:43,070 --> 01:50:40,440
equal weight one one then the next one

2465
01:50:45,410 --> 01:50:43,080
won then it's like Rocky and the first

2466
01:50:47,930 --> 01:50:45,420
two Rocky movies Rocky and and Carl

2467
01:50:50,149 --> 01:50:47,940
Weathers you know they're two of equal

2468
01:50:51,590 --> 01:50:50,159
weights they're equal stature well I'll

2469
01:50:54,169 --> 01:50:51,600
tell you something crazy you and I are

2470
01:50:56,270 --> 01:50:54,179
the same age right

2471
01:50:58,010 --> 01:50:56,280
um you've gotta just like two years on

2472
01:51:00,410 --> 01:50:58,020
me so we're the same age

2473
01:51:03,050 --> 01:51:00,420
in nineteen

2474
01:51:04,970 --> 01:51:03,060
72.

2475
01:51:08,450 --> 01:51:04,980
right right after the Beatles broke up

2476
01:51:11,330 --> 01:51:08,460
at 1972 1973

2477
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:11,340
I was a rock and roll Kid

2478
01:51:16,490 --> 01:51:14,880
I didn't give a crap about the Beatles I

2479
01:51:20,030 --> 01:51:16,500
couldn't tell you Beatles song

2480
01:51:23,229 --> 01:51:20,040
I knew nothing about them I knew every

2481
01:51:26,330 --> 01:51:23,239
Elvis song really

2482
01:51:31,490 --> 01:51:26,340
so you would be a Rarity in My World in

2483
01:51:36,229 --> 01:51:31,500
73 my world in 73 yes Emerson Lake and

2484
01:51:38,390 --> 01:51:36,239
Palmer sure and who Led Zeppelin I think

2485
01:51:40,010 --> 01:51:38,400
cream had broken up by then uh the

2486
01:51:41,629 --> 01:51:40,020
Allman Brothers were just coming around

2487
01:51:43,209 --> 01:51:41,639
Chicago

2488
01:51:46,070 --> 01:51:43,219
right

2489
01:51:47,830 --> 01:51:46,080
my friends and I in 70 we were Elvis

2490
01:51:51,530 --> 01:51:47,840
what are you

2491
01:51:53,629 --> 01:51:51,540
I was born in 56 you know my parents

2492
01:51:55,669 --> 01:51:53,639
didn't have any Elvis albums they had

2493
01:51:59,470 --> 01:51:55,679
the first five Beatles albums by parents

2494
01:52:03,050 --> 01:51:59,480
did they really yeah so you know Elvis

2495
01:52:06,109 --> 01:52:03,060
phenomenal One of a Kind like Jesus

2496
01:52:07,790 --> 01:52:06,119
returning to to Earth and but then the

2497
01:52:10,189 --> 01:52:07,800
Beatles came and then it was four of

2498
01:52:11,870 --> 01:52:10,199
Jesus's you know you ever hear this in

2499
01:52:13,310 --> 01:52:11,880
the Bible apparently there's a passage

2500
01:52:15,590 --> 01:52:13,320
in the Bible

2501
01:52:17,330 --> 01:52:15,600
something about four angels will descend

2502
01:52:19,609 --> 01:52:17,340
to Earth with Harps and then we'll sing

2503
01:52:21,649 --> 01:52:19,619
or something do you know about that uh

2504
01:52:24,410 --> 01:52:21,659
yeah and they were singing

2505
01:52:26,330 --> 01:52:24,420
um uh Love Me Tender

2506
01:52:29,290 --> 01:52:26,340
no I would say they were singing Love me

2507
01:52:32,750 --> 01:52:31,370
I think the deal I think the Beatles

2508
01:52:35,209 --> 01:52:32,760
were predicted in them I don't know if

2509
01:52:37,609 --> 01:52:35,219
they saw their new testament oh that is

2510
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:37,619
too funny hey Dan great conversation

2511
01:52:43,550 --> 01:52:41,280
tonight man and uh I I look forward to

2512
01:52:46,669 --> 01:52:43,560
uh the next time that you're on the show

2513
01:52:53,330 --> 01:52:46,679
where can everybody get the book Okay so

2514
01:52:57,530 --> 01:52:55,370
about an audio version because people

2515
01:52:59,570 --> 01:52:57,540
are telling me I haven't done it yet I

2516
01:53:02,209 --> 01:52:59,580
can't afford it to be honest

2517
01:53:05,450 --> 01:53:02,219
but uh it is on Amazon it's doing pretty

2518
01:53:08,330 --> 01:53:05,460
well I have quotes from Nick Pope and uh

2519
01:53:11,030 --> 01:53:08,340
Richard Dolan Travis Walton Lynn katai

2520
01:53:13,490 --> 01:53:11,040
and Chase kolutski about the book they

2521
01:53:15,050 --> 01:53:13,500
all enjoyed it more recently Kathleen

2522
01:53:17,030 --> 01:53:15,060
Martin told me she thought it was

2523
01:53:18,770 --> 01:53:17,040
brilliant

2524
01:53:21,310 --> 01:53:18,780
um I'm very blessed that I have people

2525
01:53:23,990 --> 01:53:21,320
like you and and Nick Pope and and

2526
01:53:26,090 --> 01:53:24,000
Giorgio I saw him at aliencon I gave him

2527
01:53:27,709 --> 01:53:26,100
a hug I said Georgia you've changed my

2528
01:53:30,830 --> 01:53:27,719
life man thank you you guys are cool

2529
01:53:33,649 --> 01:53:30,840
then he goes this is funny Jimmy he goes

2530
01:53:36,950 --> 01:53:33,659
oh you heard something again I'm telling

2531
01:53:42,669 --> 01:53:36,960
you it's the contact man we need to play

2532
01:53:48,050 --> 01:53:45,669
yeah

2533
01:53:49,970 --> 01:53:48,060
anyway but thank you very much I've

2534
01:53:52,370 --> 01:53:49,980
wanted to be on your show since I met

2535
01:53:54,410 --> 01:53:52,380
you last uh whenever it was in Studio

2536
01:53:56,330 --> 01:53:54,420
City I wanted to meet you and we did it

2537
01:53:58,970 --> 01:53:56,340
and I and I'm very grateful thank you so

2538
01:54:02,149 --> 01:53:58,980
very much thank you Daniel uh the book

2539
01:54:04,910 --> 01:54:02,159
is great I have read it everybody and uh

2540
01:54:07,669 --> 01:54:04,920
please uh Daniel's links are below and

2541
01:54:09,830 --> 01:54:07,679
if you need a publicist right right sure

2542
01:54:11,930 --> 01:54:09,840
I'm still I still have to pay bills I

2543
01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:11,940
still help my daughter financially help

2544
01:54:16,490 --> 01:54:13,520
me

2545
01:54:18,530 --> 01:54:16,500
and you're into the UFO field I'm the

2546
01:54:21,530 --> 01:54:18,540
guy I'm Stephen bass is going to hire me

2547
01:54:24,709 --> 01:54:21,540
you might as well hire me too yeah you

2548
01:54:26,990 --> 01:54:24,719
never know thank you Daniel be safe out

2549
01:54:29,270 --> 01:54:27,000
there and uh it's a great book man good

2550
01:54:34,189 --> 01:54:29,280
luck thank you very sweet thank you

2551
01:54:36,649 --> 01:54:34,199
thank you Daniel Harari and the new book

2552
01:54:40,850 --> 01:54:36,659
is called after they came the links for

2553
01:54:44,390 --> 01:54:40,860
it are below and uh so I'm gonna we just

2554
01:54:45,830 --> 01:54:44,400
we went over tonight so I'm gonna get

2555
01:54:48,790 --> 01:54:45,840
straight out of here I want to remind

2556
01:54:52,609 --> 01:54:48,800
everybody that tomorrow night right here

2557
01:54:54,970 --> 01:54:52,619
Reuben Langdon is with us and we are

2558
01:54:58,310 --> 01:54:54,980
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2559
01:55:01,609 --> 01:54:58,320
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2560
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2561
01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:03,659
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